• Crikeste@lemm.ee
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    Since when has the American main stream media been tankies? Sounds like you’re doing everything you can to cope. But keep banging the drum of “he isn’t Trump”. It will surely work.

    Right?

    That’s enough to save America?

    Those are your words. You better be right.

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      1 year ago

      Since when has the American main stream media been tankies?

      American main stream media has stated that they will not vote for Biden? Is American main stream media in the room with us right now? Can you point him out?

      Those are your words.

      When and where did I say them?

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        Are you really trying to act like mainstream media isn’t scared shitless right now of Biden’s presidential run? Are you blind or just trying to stay ignorant on purpose?

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    Isn’t it liberals handing the election to Trump by pretending like Biden has a chance and refusing to push forward a new candidate? Oh wait I forgot Liberals are fascist we just haven’t scratched them yet 🖕

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      Let me just snap my fingers and swap out the candidate. Genius!

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        Do you think Biden should drop out and be replaced by a Dem who could do better in the polls? I’m not pretending you have any power I’m sure someone as feckless as you doesn’t. But you’re the type to insist that he should stay in the race despite losing in the polls right?

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          Do you think Biden should drop out and be replaced by a Dem who could do better in the polls?

          Absolutely.

          But you’re the type to insist that he should stay in the race despite losing in the polls right?

          Based on what?

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            My bad than Friendly Fire same team. Lmao

            Really hate being called a tanky by libs. I assumed you were one of those right wingers who are defending Biden to help Trump win. You know the kind of left-wing moderate who are so moderate that you makes you wonder if they’re just Republicans.

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              And I really hate when “Leftists” roll up to a discussion about the merits of making a choice at the ballot box to snarkily tell people that the magical solution is actually to just do something that’s outside of their control.

              It’s really telling how many people got pissed off thinking this meme was about them just because it includes the word tankie. Start holding the people like the one in the meme accountable instead of making wild assumptions and hurling insults.

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                I wonder why socialists who live under a government that did things like the Red Scare would be offended by people punching left than using derogatory terms for socialists like tankie.

                To be clear you should not punch left that’s something that fascists do.

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                  So you have nothing to say about Leftists pushing for Biden to lose to Trump, but god forbid someone uses the word tankie in a meme.

                  Glad to see your priorities are in order.

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      I mean, you can even see them self-identifying as tankies in this very thread. But okay.

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      Tankies are not fascist, they are just willing to do whatever it takes to defend the socialist revolution.

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          A socialist revolution by definition cannot be fascist, fascism is a far right movement and a socialist revolution is far left movement they both have authoritarian aspects, but are polar opposites as far as the goals of each movement. Socialism is for the benefit of all, fascism is for the benefit of the few.

          Also I’m not an accelerationist and am voting for Biden, there is no where near enough class conciousness in the States for a Prolitariat Revolution to occur, but once that critical tipping point is reached I think Landlords and Billionaires should get the wall if they refuse to peacefully give up their hordes of wealth and property for the common good and that the revolution should be defended by any means necessary.

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            Fine, I will grant you, you aren’t fascists. Fascists hate people and want to kill them.

            Tankies love “the revolution” more than the people they want to benefit. You may not see it as breaking a few eggs to make an omelette, but when you sit out an election where the fascists have a better than coin flip odds of seizing power, you are effectively letting them do that. And if you’re willing to let trans people die in camps for… what was it? “Enough class consciousness to build” then… well, fuck you and your revolution.

            Like, also this reveals your total all encompassing privilege. Because look dude, if the fascists are putting trans people and immigrants into camps, do you really think they will spare you? Or do you just think you’re white enough that you’ll go under the radar until your “revolution” happens?

            Also, fuck any revolution that involves taking up the tools and institutions of power. Those need to be ground to dust

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      To place Russian communism and Nazi-fascism on the same moral plane, in that both would be totalitarian, is superficial at best, fascism at worst. Whoever insists on this equation may well consider himself a democrat, in truth and in the bottom of his heart he is in fact already a fascist, and certainly only in a hypocritical and insincere way will he fight fascism, while reserving all his hatred for communism.

      • Thomas Mann
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      Look, Im trans. If he loses, Im the one getting genocided. Its perhaps a mirthless disposition, but I am absolutely willing to put off Palestine so I dont get shot, and probably so you dont get deported tol btw

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      Let me change around your words and then shame you for the new position I created for you. Oh, and don’t bother debating me, I’m only interested in the sound of my own voice