• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    4 months ago

    There is zero basis for your assertion that majority of immigrants weren’t able to find jobs their skills aren’t transferable. This affects certain professions to be sure, however plenty of people like software developers have skills that are very much transferable. Drivers are able to find jobs because those are the kinds of low paying jobs immigrants get, not because their other skills weren’t useful. And yes it very much does boil down to opportunities available, which in UK are slim to none even for people born there.

    If you’re going to claim that lack of transferable skills was the core issue, then do provide a source to support your assertion.

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      Not sure if you caught my last edit before you replied, but there is certainly basis for my assertion, like the lawyer and doctor examples and the article stating that some had to take lower pay jobs because of lack of opportunities/vacancies and having to only fill gaps. Another example from the article is the teacher, whose qualifications might be a gray area because of different educational systems, so it may or may not be transferable. The article is the source of my assertion, because it literally points out that it’s the lack of job opportunities, the pandemic, and economic downturn that’s causing them grief. Tech workers definitely have an edge there as those skills are universal, and in that case it boils down to availability of jobs.

      Another basis of my assertion is my own lived experience. I work in tech, so it was relatively easy to transfer my skills and my employer just had to prove I could fill the job vacancy. My sibling who is a lawyer doesn’t have that same opportunity because their degree and title are not recognized in other countries. My other sibling on the other hand is a RN in our home country, and by getting qualified via the destination country’s affiliated-bodies, they are able to transfer their qualifications to at least caregiver status and work in that kind of job, which is lower pay, but still a job.

      I’m not claiming lack of transferable skills is the core issue, I’m just saying it seems to be a factor based on what is stated in the article. The article mostly highlights lack of job opportunities after all.

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        4 months ago

        Again, what you say is true for some professions, however you have not demonstrated that this is the primary reason for people not being able to find jobs. The fact that people born in UK are struggling to find jobs seems to indicate that the problem is not limited to immigrants.

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          Yup, I am not claiming it is the root issue, just that I think it’s one of the reasons for their struggles, based on the examples given by the article, and because I can relate. Native born people in the UK having the same issues certainly show it’s not limited to immigrants, so it’s not a specific issue that’s special to HK citizens moving to the UK, it’s a global issue that happens everywhere where people move, and some move back because they can’t find good opportunities. And while the author presumes (for some reason) some of the respondents are not telling the truth, the survey results did say 99 percent of those interviewed do not plan to return.

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            It’s true that it is often more difficult for immigrants to find good opportunities, even when they have high qualification in their home country. And the reason for why people wouldn’t want to admit that they bet on the wrong horse is pretty obvious. Imagine selling out your home country and thinking that the westerners are superior, then finding out that none of it is true. It’s a pretty embarrassing thing to admit. Saving face is particularly important in Asian cultures https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_(sociological_concept)