• BranBucket@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    It’s the opinion on smoking, not praying, that differs.

    In both cases you’re praying and smoking at the same time, so your actions don’t change, but the priest rationalizes two completely different answers based on the way the question is posed. It’s just an example to show how two contradictory answers can seem rational to the same person because of the language used.

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      the priest rationalizes two completely different answers based on the way the question is posed. It’s just an example to show how two contradictory answers can seem rational to the same person because of the language used.

      They aren’t contradictory though. Basically what they are saying is just praying > praying + smoking > just smoking. “Okay” has different meanings in the different sentences.

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        But in both cases, the person is asking to do the same thing. The order of the words in the sentence doesn’t change the end result, we always wind up with someone smoking and praying simultaneously, which may or may not be against God’s will.

        Strip away the justifications and simplify the word choices and you get this:

        1. May I smoke while I pray? No, you may not.
        2. May I pray while I smoke? Yes, you may.

        Given that, can you say if it is right or wrong to smoke and pray simultaneously?

        And again, this is just a hypothetical scenario. In the broader context of life, religion, and tobacco use, it’ll never be this simple, but it works for an example.

        Now, someone might point out that by simplifying the wording, I’ve changed the meaning of the original statement to make it fit my argument, and that now it means something else. But that’s essentially my original point, phrasing and word choices can shape our reasoning, thought processes, and how we interpret meaning in ways we aren’t immediately aware of, leading us to different conclusions or even delusional thinking.