As much as i think taiwan is part of china, I don’t think the majority of people in taiwan want reunification. You got a source or is this bs?
The desire for Taiwanese independence has experienced a significant drop over the past three years, with only 25.3% of people who want to “move toward independence” or seeking “independence as soon as possible” - down from nearly one-third - 32.4% - in 2020.
So, of the (apparently) 7.4% who do want unification (either right away or after waiting some unspecified period), what percentage of that 7.4% mean unification under PRC and how many unification under ROC rule?
The graph also shows that (since 1994) those two groups that want unification (whether now or later) have fallen from 20% to the current 7.4%.
The number who want independence at some later date has almost tripled since 1994 (8.0% ti 21.9%), whereas the number who want independence immediately or a.s.a.p. is very small and has barely changed (3.1% to 4.4%).
It suggests to me that whatever else most Taiwanese want they do not want conflict or violence with mainland China.
It certainly doesn’t suggest that any significant percentage of Taiwanese want reunification with the PRC today. Anybody have any insights into the nitty gritty details of the 30 years of polling or whether or not we should be suspicious of the Election Study Center at NCCU?
Ahhh now this is exactly the kind of data i was looking for. Thanks yogthos
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The largest opinion in Taiwan is “status quo,” both independence and full reunification are minority opinions.
Noted thanks cowbee
No problem!
If you assume the flags stand for official government positions, then this meme makes sense. This is further supported by the fact that normal people don’t think in terms of “one China policy” (like the post’s title implies) but rather in terms of “unification”, as you wrote.
Please explain this meme to an European 😅
Both the PRC and ROC maintain that they are the legitimate governments of all of China, both mainland and Taiwan included. Both adhere to the idea that Taiwan is Chinese, they disagree on which government is legitimate.
I knew that part, and AFAIK, the opinion within the ROC is not that clear cut (the left tends to reject a union). I just don’t understand the mate-drinking girl part.
The left tends to support reunification, as do the far-right. It’s mostly the centrists that seek the status quo or independence. The mate drinking part is a dig against the western liberals that think they can decide for them.
Makes it seem like Argentinians are the ones you forgot to ask.
As an Argentinian I find the idea of drinking that can insane. It’s always dried yerba with hot water (or cool juice in the case of tereré). I would side eye someone drinking that instead.
Mate here is culture, it’s social glue. That’s why people clowned our far right president when he showed being very inexperienced drinking mate. We drink it with our grandparents, our friends, our partners, our colleagues, our classmates, and so on and on. It’s less strong now post COVID for obvious reasons, but you get my point.
I didn’t make the meme 🤷
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Lol brother, Taiwan says Taiwan is China
are you the yerba mate drinker from the meme?
I don’t have the time, but someone should make a version of this where China and OP consent but Taiwan is the objector.
Why? Both the PRC and ROC maintain that they are the legitimate governments of all of China, both mainland and Taiwan included. Both adhere to the idea that Taiwan is Chinese, they disagree on which government is legitimate.
Posts like these make me so happy for piefed’s note system so I now know never to engage with your ignorant ass.
Did you mean to screenshot the post?
Or if this is a “but you participate in society…” Comment, cool. I like spreading the word about piefed so folks know there is a system where you can note users and thus moderate your responses before expending good faith effort etc.
I think the point is davel has you tagged “ignorantass” on lemmy. Which would imply some kind of equivalent system exists on lemmy too.
Ahhh, thank you! I didn’t look particularly closely. Neat that Lemmy has that system, wonder if it always did.
Yeah you guys seem to love the social credit thing you’ve got going on over there. Makes sense, dissent seems scary to you so it’s easier to just mark all unbelievers.
Admittedly, the .ml works too. I just hate tarring everyone with the same brush but damned if y’all don’t keep reinforcing the stereotype.
(No idea how a note only I can see is social credit but hey, what are facts to a fool?)
Is that the stereotype of being so consistently right in a way that embarrasses liberals that ypu guys had to make a whole new site with anticommunist censorship literally built into the code? What a stunning retreat from the marketplace of ideas.
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“People who disagree with me aren’t human” and other fascist copes
+10 piefed social credit
Can I use this in Lemmy?
Lemmy didn’t have a system like that when I was using it. But yeah, it’s super useful.
