Is the CDU also willing to put their money where their mouth is? We haven’t had one year without some internet service being breached. So, are those politicians going to pay when our real identities are exposed?
And when they’re at it, how about some actual recourse when you get banned?
You’re going to be slapped a fine you can’t appeal if you’re posting an opinion outside the Party’s overton window. They need your ID so it’s less work that way.
I got 1 bann for saying “the organisation system of the german trains needs to be burned down and rebuild a new on a clean slate” obviousely this is figure of speech. They saw it as call for terrorism.
And then another ban for saying “Sprich deutsch du hurensohn” which is/was an inside joke in ich-iel and only done there.
I got a violation, a second one I think, a 3 day ban, at which point I abandon accounts and never log in again, 1 year back, for suggesting Musk be aboard one of his spaceships. That’s it. I guess in the context of them blowing up all the time it’s a call for violence, which is how they labelled it. I quit for a couple of months before starting another account, between them right now too, went through like 4 last year, while I took at least 4 months off.
I haven’t been on in a month now. But it’s weird, I had cleared cookies dozens of times, looking for links to streaming a show, as search engines are enshitified and no longer provide them, I found a reddit page a couple of times, it looked like I was logged in somehow, anyway a third time I came back to one of their pages, not having logged in, and set up so I had to type my username to log in, its not automatic, I checked and somehow I was logged in.
For a month? How did that happen? I closed and cleared cookies and checked back and it didn’t log me in automatically.
How could that possibly have happened? Is it hacked? Was it logged in for a month, despite clearing the cookies like every day?
In the bad old days where I was forced to make spyware in exchange for a white collar paycheque, we used to make things called “supercookies” that used basically any fingerprint, storage, glitches of a browser to store a token or otherwise identify you with or without identity
We had something like 98% confidence even if you had no cookies, based on just using JS to eyeball your browser and probing it.
Not saying its a “supercookie” but the internet is funny like that. The current bleeding edge of it seems to be abusing favicon caches
Thanks for the reply. I have heard of these. After 1/6 I was going to sign up for Gab or one of those right wing social medias that was popular to see what they were saying and sharing, and on the sign in they demanded I authorize “permanent cookies,” which I refused to do. Reading about them everyone else called them persistent cookies.
But after this incident I checked the cookies and firefox doesn’t show any of these persistent cookies, I don’t know how one would even find them and remove them if they don’t show up.
I also am chagrined that PC’s don’t protect you from this. Like you should have to explicitly agree to such a thing, and be given tools to see what is on there, and remove them as you see fit. Just one more step into not owning our own electronics and just using it at the permission of the manufacturers and whomever else.
But reddit never did that to me before. Why would it log me in without telling me? It’s still quite odd there has to be a reason, and it almost has to be a hacker or something I would think. As fantastical as that sounds.
So it’s as much about recognizing browswer signatures, unique identifiers, etc, as it is putting persistent cookies on computers? I have read about some of those things, but have previously tried and failed to find these persisent cookies and remove them, and gave up. The computers are set up in a way to allow these groups to infect your computer with impunity.
Everything is, which is why we need consumers’ unions. Turns out it is as much the fault of the government as with the companies themselves, they want to be able to spy on you, but in the process make us vulnerable to everyone else. The NSA is supposed to be protecting us from hackers, from criminal groups, foreign intelligence agencies, contractors for the rich, etc., but has made us vulnerable to them, in a way that regular people have no tools to even spot let alone fix, so they can see what we are doing. They have their priorities all screwed up.
Given that the government does an end run around constitutional protections like the bill of rights by letting private companies spy on us and then buying the data from them, a ridiculous argument but one endorsed by our captured courts long past, it makes sense that they would’ve influenced manufacturers and software companies to do a lot of things, like not allowing you to take your battery out of your device so you can’t stop the gps and whatever else is spying on you without a faraday cage; like making windows task manager useless to shut down malign activity, where once is was a powerful tool, the only tool many users had any idea how to use, to override malign forces on your computer and even remove them; and allowing computers to be infected with persistent cookies and the like, without telling you or needing permission, with no seeming way of knowing what is on there, let alone being able to remove it. To name just a few.
I truly believe we all need to move to open source, as soon as I’m confident I can make the change safely and have my devices still work I plan on doing it. It only gets worse from here on out, at least with open source we have people on our side, on the side of privacy and security, working to keep bad actors out, something we no longer have at all in proprietary software like microsoft.
I did, I’ve deleted my habitual bookmark and put lemmy in the same place on the bar.
But the volume of discourse isn’t quite here yet.
But I do like not being banned (twice, the second time an experiment to determine if it was automated, it was) for suggesting Peter Thiel should be turned into soup.
To the point that I’m gonna get it printed on a T-shirt.
What is there to breach? You’re already exposing your your real identity when you post under your real name with this new requirement. As long as the methods for verifying your identity aren’t something scammers can exploit there is nothing to expose. If, for example, you could use your photo ID with everything but your pic and name covered, and maybe also birth year for age checks, all it does is remove the ability for people to be cunts with impunity.
I’d have to give it some more thought, but I’m not against this right away. The Internet has become a vile place. Maybe if you wouldn’t say something in public for everyone to hear, you shouldn’t post it either.
Facebook tried the whole real name thing, and it did not do much to stop people from being cunts with impunity. We have been over this.
Never mind that you also have to account for people who would rather not be under their legal name for a variety of reasons, ranging from being victims of stalking and abuse, to artistic reasons, to simply preferring another name than the one their parents chose for them.
all it does is remove the ability for people to be cunts with impunity.
Try getting around a Reddit ban. There is no need for official IDs. The only ones who benefit from this are governments trying to root our dissent.
Is the CDU also willing to put their money where their mouth is? We haven’t had one year without some internet service being breached. So, are those politicians going to pay when our real identities are exposed?
And when they’re at it, how about some actual recourse when you get banned?
You’re going to be slapped a fine you can’t appeal if you’re posting an opinion outside the Party’s overton window. They need your ID so it’s less work that way.
I’m banned from reddit from suggesting that Peter Thiels assets should be liquidated, the man turned to soup.
The most banal of opinions is now automatically being banned.
I got 1 bann for saying “the organisation system of the german trains needs to be burned down and rebuild a new on a clean slate” obviousely this is figure of speech. They saw it as call for terrorism.
And then another ban for saying “Sprich deutsch du hurensohn” which is/was an inside joke in ich-iel and only done there.
Ah, the Rule 1 violation. Mainly because they just pick the first thing as an excuse to ban.
Yes but what kind of soup
This is important
chemical soup.
I got a violation, a second one I think, a 3 day ban, at which point I abandon accounts and never log in again, 1 year back, for suggesting Musk be aboard one of his spaceships. That’s it. I guess in the context of them blowing up all the time it’s a call for violence, which is how they labelled it. I quit for a couple of months before starting another account, between them right now too, went through like 4 last year, while I took at least 4 months off.
I’m trying to ween myself off reddit.
I haven’t been on in a month now. But it’s weird, I had cleared cookies dozens of times, looking for links to streaming a show, as search engines are enshitified and no longer provide them, I found a reddit page a couple of times, it looked like I was logged in somehow, anyway a third time I came back to one of their pages, not having logged in, and set up so I had to type my username to log in, its not automatic, I checked and somehow I was logged in.
For a month? How did that happen? I closed and cleared cookies and checked back and it didn’t log me in automatically.
How could that possibly have happened? Is it hacked? Was it logged in for a month, despite clearing the cookies like every day?
In the bad old days where I was forced to make spyware in exchange for a white collar paycheque, we used to make things called “supercookies” that used basically any fingerprint, storage, glitches of a browser to store a token or otherwise identify you with or without identity
We had something like 98% confidence even if you had no cookies, based on just using JS to eyeball your browser and probing it.
Not saying its a “supercookie” but the internet is funny like that. The current bleeding edge of it seems to be abusing favicon caches
Thanks for the reply. I have heard of these. After 1/6 I was going to sign up for Gab or one of those right wing social medias that was popular to see what they were saying and sharing, and on the sign in they demanded I authorize “permanent cookies,” which I refused to do. Reading about them everyone else called them persistent cookies.
But after this incident I checked the cookies and firefox doesn’t show any of these persistent cookies, I don’t know how one would even find them and remove them if they don’t show up.
I also am chagrined that PC’s don’t protect you from this. Like you should have to explicitly agree to such a thing, and be given tools to see what is on there, and remove them as you see fit. Just one more step into not owning our own electronics and just using it at the permission of the manufacturers and whomever else.
But reddit never did that to me before. Why would it log me in without telling me? It’s still quite odd there has to be a reason, and it almost has to be a hacker or something I would think. As fantastical as that sounds.
Its not about permissions, its about giving you the occular patdown and making observations.
I don’t need to know who you are, but that you’re unique and heres how I tell you are you.
I can later relate that back to PII if I’m clever.
I hated working in the marketing/tracking space.
So it’s as much about recognizing browswer signatures, unique identifiers, etc, as it is putting persistent cookies on computers? I have read about some of those things, but have previously tried and failed to find these persisent cookies and remove them, and gave up. The computers are set up in a way to allow these groups to infect your computer with impunity.
Everything is, which is why we need consumers’ unions. Turns out it is as much the fault of the government as with the companies themselves, they want to be able to spy on you, but in the process make us vulnerable to everyone else. The NSA is supposed to be protecting us from hackers, from criminal groups, foreign intelligence agencies, contractors for the rich, etc., but has made us vulnerable to them, in a way that regular people have no tools to even spot let alone fix, so they can see what we are doing. They have their priorities all screwed up.
Given that the government does an end run around constitutional protections like the bill of rights by letting private companies spy on us and then buying the data from them, a ridiculous argument but one endorsed by our captured courts long past, it makes sense that they would’ve influenced manufacturers and software companies to do a lot of things, like not allowing you to take your battery out of your device so you can’t stop the gps and whatever else is spying on you without a faraday cage; like making windows task manager useless to shut down malign activity, where once is was a powerful tool, the only tool many users had any idea how to use, to override malign forces on your computer and even remove them; and allowing computers to be infected with persistent cookies and the like, without telling you or needing permission, with no seeming way of knowing what is on there, let alone being able to remove it. To name just a few.
I truly believe we all need to move to open source, as soon as I’m confident I can make the change safely and have my devices still work I plan on doing it. It only gets worse from here on out, at least with open source we have people on our side, on the side of privacy and security, working to keep bad actors out, something we no longer have at all in proprietary software like microsoft.
Rip the bandaid off. It’ll feel better before you know it.
I did, I’ve deleted my habitual bookmark and put lemmy in the same place on the bar.
But the volume of discourse isn’t quite here yet.
But I do like not being banned (twice, the second time an experiment to determine if it was automated, it was) for suggesting Peter Thiel should be turned into soup.
To the point that I’m gonna get it printed on a T-shirt.
What is there to breach? You’re already exposing your your real identity when you post under your real name with this new requirement. As long as the methods for verifying your identity aren’t something scammers can exploit there is nothing to expose. If, for example, you could use your photo ID with everything but your pic and name covered, and maybe also birth year for age checks, all it does is remove the ability for people to be cunts with impunity.
I’d have to give it some more thought, but I’m not against this right away. The Internet has become a vile place. Maybe if you wouldn’t say something in public for everyone to hear, you shouldn’t post it either.
Facebook tried the whole real name thing, and it did not do much to stop people from being cunts with impunity. We have been over this.
Never mind that you also have to account for people who would rather not be under their legal name for a variety of reasons, ranging from being victims of stalking and abuse, to artistic reasons, to simply preferring another name than the one their parents chose for them.
As if, this is probably all about Israel somehow. One wonders if there is a german equivalent of Epstein.
At this point, I’m convinced anyone higher than a HOA president is in those files. For Epstein, all those people were his Pokémon.