‘Fall into this trap’? I’d love to be wrong about this, but I’m pretty sure they know what they’re doing and why.
The People of the Earth will not fall into a trap set by the control-obsessed few.
When you go to a bar, the bouncer checks your ID and determines your age. He will not remember your name. He will not inform the government you are at the bar. He will not write down who you met with or talked to. We as a society trust he will not do these things. You are still anonymous from the perspective of the bouncer.
If humans really truely tried I am sure we could design a transparent system for verifying age or human-ness that we (tech paranoid Lemmings) could trust, but it doesn’t seem like governments even want to try. They just want to track people.
AI engagement will be the death of the internet and democracy if we cannot stop it. We have Paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions and godlike technology.
their intention is not to verify your age. Their intention is to eliminate all opponents and send them to jail, oppress him etc. Everything else is just a lie and excuse. That is why you cant trust governments. You can not trust them! if even they are today honest, we can not guarantee they will not on spy us tomorrow
their intension is not to verify your age. Their intention is to eliminate all opponents
Agreed. Even if the government states that isn’t the case, having the capacity to crack down on political opposition is unacceptable.
What I am saying is we need to figure a way to verify personhood (and maybe age idk) external to the government.
For example, people didn’t think currency could exist outside a centralized government, but crypto-currencies exist now.
I see it like we as a civilization are in the teenager stage of development: with the powers of an adult (including the ability to greatly harm ourselves and others), but still with the maturity and self control of a child. We technically know how to be a responsible adult (civilization), but we can’t help partying, fighting and drunk driving etc. We need to grow up fast.
We technically know how to be a responsible adult (civilization)
I don’t think our government institutions are able to address the speed at which things are developing. Everyone wants to regulate AI, but what does that even look like?
Does Bob Bobson R-WY (age 83) chair of the Senate Committee for Emerging Technologies know? Does he have the capacity to know? Don’t fuck it up, Bob or we all die. It’s not Senator Bob’s fault, he exists inside a governmental organization that prioritizes wisdom and seniority (I mean, took at Senator John Johnson, pro tempore (age 102) ).
but we can’t help partying, fighting and drunk driving etc.
Primate brains. It all feeds back into itself as this destructive cycle.
I don’t think our government institutions are able to address the speed at which things are developing.
No, our current institutions are relics of our childhood stage, completely inadequate for handling the powers that science and technology have given us (our adult power). What we need is something completely different.
Primate brains. It all feeds back into itself as this destructive cycle.
Primate brains with the capability for higher, rational thought, but only when adequately trained.
As a Turkish a see “failed to load media 😢”
Also Turkish. I have been using Linux for 20 years now. Also started using VPNs when the internet restrictions became unbearable.
I think there is value in the concept of a government-operated “social media” website that’s open for public comment on laws, policies, etc, and requires proof of occupancy in order to participate.
But government “identity verification” to participate on the internet at large is tyranny.
I agree. The government should not use Zuckerberg or Musk’s platforms for publix announcements.
The technology and working of social media isn’t the problem, the lack of transparency and oversight is.
Along those lines, there’s no technical reason we need representative governments anymore either. The reason representation was necessary was because it was clearly impractical for multiple reasons for all citizens to travel to the same place, debate the merits of proposed legislation, and vote on implementation. The internet solves those problems. The system hasn’t changed because we’re coasting on institutional momentum.
Now, that is not to say that I trust any current government to implement such a system in a fair and impartial manner. However, all the technology needed to do so has existed for a long time now. The only things stopping us are entrenched power structures and a lack of imagination.
Reddit never would have happened without the anonymity.
facebook requiring real names was about were I was like. Forget this. I never liked it that much to begin with and that tore it. It was about the time my sister started taggin family and its like. don’t do that.
Back then it was what? My Space fading FaceBook beginning. And Twitter starting. Nothing like it is right now.
I would hope the government operated version would never become Reddit.
I’m fine with someone claiming to be Trump or Putin or Starmer or even this guy needing to prove that they are who they say they are. In fact, I’m good with that.
But anonymous stuff online? A lot of us aren’t on Facebook/Twitter because we don’t want to speak as ourselves, we want to speak freely anonymously. And like they say, a claim presented without evidence can be summarily dismissed without evidence, a statement made by an anonymous person does not have the same weight as someone who is tying their statement, and in fact their history of statements, to their true identity. And maybe we don’t want or need it to.
I disagree fellow earth man. I am a big on people being their real self with real details. Just like I do here.
What do you disagree about? You can be as real as you want anonymously. What I said was if you want to say you’re a particular person, you should have to prove that.
So you might be some Joe or Jane Nobody and that’s fine, but say you have a mid-level government job somewhere, it isn’t important, but it would be embarrassing to you if someone posted as you. In that case, if someone wanted to defame you by saying they’re you, I think they should be obliged to prove it. Or they can say defaming things about you, they just have to do it anonymously — or under their own name. They couldn’t say they were you and that they (you) did things you never did.
If you wanna be your 100% genuine self but be anonymous about it, I think that’s perfectly fine. I do the same — I’m too old, and not smart enough by far — to invent a persona. So I just try to be my best self.
look at my user name and profile
Earth mammal* 🤣
You will submit your face photo and be happy.
