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        Like with cooking it can be both. For truly terrific stuff is definately art, however for mediocre stuff it’s mainly biochemistry.

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          Hell the high end stuff goes beyond and into “this can only be made properly in this county” because of climate effecting the aging process and ingredients

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            You’re right. That is extremely debatable.

            The USA doesn’t even produce some of the best spirits on their own contentent.

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                    I’m queer, married to a trans person, and my brother and his family is Anishinaabe. I think I might have a bit of experience in it too. And thinking “Americans don’t make good booze” isn’t bigotry, it’s nationalism. Saying “Gay people”, or “Indigenous people” don’t make good booze is bigotry.

                    Also, saying something like “American Whisky is water with an alcohol content” is also more of a personal opinion rather than an outright attack on any particular group.

                    You might want to refresh your language a little bit.

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      7 days ago

      With brands you know for years, you know what you’re getting. Some folks probably don’t want to test new ones. Maybe we should provide substitution proposals.

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        Honestly I find most liquors are easy enough to substitute for the average drinker.

        Yeah if you’re some kind o whiskey connoisseur that drops hundreds or even thousands on bottles there’s maybe a difference. But for the average sub $100 you’ll easily find a substitute just moving within a similar price point

        Depending on the person beer can be a bit harder, but not impossible by any means

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          Maybe I’m not the right person to have started the conversation I guess. I’ve got a 500€ bottle of single barrel Scotch here, and a lot of her lesser sisters. This rhymes to a less insane degree with gin, rum, tequila and various European fruit distillations. Then there’s the wine, and since I’ve been friend-dopted by my best vineyard owners, this game has improved a lot as well.

          I do enjoy stuff like this, and it’s quite a journey to find what you’re into.

          For a mixer I wouldn’t go into so much detail, of course.

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            Two things.

            Americans don’t produce anything as good as a single malt scotch.

            Scotland would never spontaneously shred their international reputation the way America has, so international scotch sales will be safe in perpetuity.

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              We absolutely do make competitors that rival Scottish single malt, we just don’t copy them. I understand it’s fashionable to shit on everything American but you would do well to avoid sinking into outright bigotry

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                You make nothing that rivals Scottish single malt.

                You would do well to avoid tone policing. concentrate more on domestic sales, to compensate for the international sales that you’re never getting back.

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                  You realize you are speaking to a person right? Again, sliding into actual bigotry where you’re hate blinds you to reality. We have several distilleries, most in blue states mind you, that compete and even win against Scottish single malts

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                    It only feels like bigotry to you.

                    What is happening is shunning, and it is happening as a direct consequence of your POTUS.

                    You may be miffed, but the fact of the matter is that you do not distil a single spirit that the rest of the world requires. Anything distilled in the United States is utterly replaceable by something as good, or better from elsewhere.

                    You’re going on and on about the quality of what’s distilled on American soil, with no understanding of what actually makes it distasteful.