Imagine if there were mediums . . . Like something social in nature. . . Hmmm, what to call it? Oh, I know! Social media!
Now, imagine if citizens could, you know, post stuff on said social media, like en masse. Because lots of ‘enormous’protests that are ‘consistently happening’ would get attention, right?
I mean, network media doesn’t gatekeep what the populace posts, right?
other than on the fediverse it absolutely does. but a lot of us aren’t taking our phones to protests because the NSA/FBI uses the data of crowds pinging off cell towers to break our movements. plus they’ve been deploying mobile cell towers to exactly pinpoint our locations and apply force to us.
in otherwords:
no. social media is not an option. we’re less interested in you seeing us do this work than we are in making sure the work gets done. we know this lets the right wing skew the messaging their way, but it’s better than not being out at all because you’re scared to go out and be beaten, or because you’re spending 9+ months in a detention center.
i’ve been at this for 21 years. most people i talk to strongly recommend against bringing phones to protests, and recommend not posting any photographs taken with a basic camera if you can see anyone in the picture’s face.
if you have good techniques for defeating NSA/FBI tactics that would let us get our imagery in front of more people, i’d love to know them. for now i’m gonna keep not bringing my phone and keep any photos i take off the internet because they put people at risk of intensive harm from our oppressive police state
They’re charging headlong into teargas and lobbing it back. They’re stubbornly taking whatever opening they can get a foothold in and erecting barricades.
I’d say this is pretty damn opposite of “apathetic.” Maybe it’ll give you some hope. In the meanwhile, please support the helpers.
My recommendation: let it go. Too many people on lemmy demand The People here do things differently. More and more I’m finding that people are more interested in the entertainment of watching protests somewhere else from them than in getting involved in their local communities. I have no interest in performing for the internet the role of protestor, and am much more interested in being involved where I am in making changes. If lemmy wants to be a cesspit of obnoxious keyboard warriors telling eachother to do something and prove they’re doing something, that’s fine, it doesn’t need us. If it’s just going to be an energy sink, it’s going to exist in a place of making us less, not more, effective as mobilized participants in social good.
I agree with your advice. It’s sad to me that a lot of people are simply venting as a weird means of “enjoying” the spectacle of it all.
Thanks for sharing those resources. The “full spectrum resistance” book they link seems particularly interesting! I very much appreciate you taking the time.
But you’re exactly right: the people who are actually making a difference aren’t doing it for show.
Imagine if there were mediums . . . Like something social in nature. . . Hmmm, what to call it? Oh, I know! Social media! Now, imagine if citizens could, you know, post stuff on said social media, like en masse. Because lots of ‘enormous’protests that are ‘consistently happening’ would get attention, right? I mean, network media doesn’t gatekeep what the populace posts, right?
other than on the fediverse it absolutely does. but a lot of us aren’t taking our phones to protests because the NSA/FBI uses the data of crowds pinging off cell towers to break our movements. plus they’ve been deploying mobile cell towers to exactly pinpoint our locations and apply force to us.
in otherwords:
no. social media is not an option. we’re less interested in you seeing us do this work than we are in making sure the work gets done. we know this lets the right wing skew the messaging their way, but it’s better than not being out at all because you’re scared to go out and be beaten, or because you’re spending 9+ months in a detention center.
Oh, ffs, like there aren’t a thousand work arounds on that. Grow up.
i’ve been at this for 21 years. most people i talk to strongly recommend against bringing phones to protests, and recommend not posting any photographs taken with a basic camera if you can see anyone in the picture’s face.
if you have good techniques for defeating NSA/FBI tactics that would let us get our imagery in front of more people, i’d love to know them. for now i’m gonna keep not bringing my phone and keep any photos i take off the internet because they put people at risk of intensive harm from our oppressive police state
Come show us how it’s done then, we beseech you.
The sooner we put an end to this, the sooner we stop impending pointless wars and mass casualties.
If none of you know how to upload a video, you’re already beyond fucked.
The reality is that this isn’t about whether or not it’s being covered. It’s about the fact that what little you are doing is apathetic as fuck.
They currently have law enforcement tucking tail and making a tactical retreat.
https://www.youtube.com/live/ASr1zVuQlX4
They’re charging headlong into teargas and lobbing it back. They’re stubbornly taking whatever opening they can get a foothold in and erecting barricades.
I’d say this is pretty damn opposite of “apathetic.” Maybe it’ll give you some hope. In the meanwhile, please support the helpers.
My recommendation: let it go. Too many people on lemmy demand The People here do things differently. More and more I’m finding that people are more interested in the entertainment of watching protests somewhere else from them than in getting involved in their local communities. I have no interest in performing for the internet the role of protestor, and am much more interested in being involved where I am in making changes. If lemmy wants to be a cesspit of obnoxious keyboard warriors telling eachother to do something and prove they’re doing something, that’s fine, it doesn’t need us. If it’s just going to be an energy sink, it’s going to exist in a place of making us less, not more, effective as mobilized participants in social good.
@[email protected] is frequently posting good comments like this one about how to get active.
That’s SUPER helpful. Thank you!!
I agree with your advice. It’s sad to me that a lot of people are simply venting as a weird means of “enjoying” the spectacle of it all.
Thanks for sharing those resources. The “full spectrum resistance” book they link seems particularly interesting! I very much appreciate you taking the time.
But you’re exactly right: the people who are actually making a difference aren’t doing it for show.
Stay safe out there. <3