Sure., that’s one of them, along with making blocking hexbear and lemmygrad blocked by default so unsuspecting new admins aren’t exposed to leftists, blocking the ability to reply entitely for blocked accounts, etc. Are you trying to convince me to like these features?
Doesn’t actually censor. The purpose of this is to identify potential troll accounts as yes, despite some more long-term users potentially getting hit with this for interacting in caustic debate communities a lot - 9/10 of people who get this tag are spammers, trolls etc.
blocking the ability to reply entitely for blocked accounts, etc. Are you trying to convince me to like these features?
This isn’t to do with trying to censor any political viewpoint though, and derives from not wanting users to receive repeated unwanted contact publicly from a user they’ve blocked.
It’s my understanding that social credit outright limits your ability to post, comment, vote, etc.
This isn’t to do with trying to censor any political viewpoint though, and derives from not wanting users to receive repeated unwanted contact publicly from a user they’ve blocked.
I understand, but it’s more unreasonable to suggest that the anti-communist views of Rimu played absolutely no part in deciding to make this a feature, intentionally or not. This opens up blocking to abuse, where one can abuse someone by blocking them and then smearing said user (as Open Stars does with their PieFed account and constantly smearing me as a sea-lion troll).
It’s my understanding that social credit outright limits your ability to post, comment, vote, etc.
No, that’s if you heavily downvote. That’s your //attitude// - not your reputation. Heavy downvoters can lose the ability to downvote (not comment).
I understand, but it’s more unreasonable to suggest that the anti-communist views of Rimu played absolutely no part in deciding to make this a feature, intentionally or not
Sorry, nope. This just flatout does not follow at all. I see no reason why it would have had any relevance to this particular function whatsoever.
This opens up blocking to abuse, where one can abuse someone by blocking them and then smearing said user (as Open Stars does with their PieFed account and constantly smearing me as a sea-lion troll).
Yes, it can cause that. Of course it also goes both ways - without blocking working like that, a blocked user could just follow the person who has blocked them around on-site and continually pester them without them knowing. There is no good way to implement blocking that doesn’t have some level of disagreement from people.
Thanks for adding information on the social credit score, though I still don’t like it.
Sorry, nope. This just flatout does not follow at all. I see no reason why it would have had any relevance to this particular function whatsoever.
Humans do not simply lose all bias when developing things, creative outputs are a reflection of our views and ways of thinking, intentionally or not.
Yes, it can cause that. Of course it also goes both ways - without blocking working like that, a blocked user could just follow the person who has blocked them around on-site and continually pester them without them knowing. There is no good way to implement blocking that doesn’t have some level of disagreement from people.
It’s better for blocked users to be able to clear their name and mods/admins take action if necessary than it is to entirely shut out interraction, if the end result from the user is the same. There’s no pestering if they can’t see it.
Humans do not simply lose all bias when developing things, creative outputs are a reflection of our views and ways of thinking, intentionally or not.
Bias for what? Again - many block systems work like the way Piefed has designed it. Your claim that it is somehow connected to his overarching dislike of communism here is completely and utterly baseless. Why should I just accept that? Because you claim it?
It’s better for blocked users to be able to clear their name and mods/admins take action if necessary than it is to entirely shut out interraction, if the end result from the user is the same. There’s no pestering if they can’t see it.
And that’s your position on it - but others disagree. The other user can’t see that (hypothetically) they’re being smeared and harassed across the Fediverse in this case. Whatever the disagreements here, it has nothing to do with trying to stop communists.
The argument you’re making is that the views, opinions, and ideas held by people have no impact on what they design or how if there isn’t a “smoking gun” linking them. This is absurd, though, as we couldn’t create without views, ideas, and opinions, and we cannot sipmply shut out all views we hold when creating. Rimu has already proven willingness to do so with default blocking Hexbear and Lemmygrad to begin with.
I’m aware others disagree with me, I’ve said PieFed exists for those that want it and Lemmy for those that want it. Others disagree with you, and that’s fine.
The argument you’re making is that the views, opinions, and ideas held by people have no impact on what they design or how if there isn’t a “smoking gun” linking them. This is absurd, though, as we couldn’t create without views, ideas, and opinions, and we cannot sipmply shut out all views we hold when creating. Rimu has already proven willingness to do so with default blocking Hexbear and Lemmygrad to begin with.
I’m saying that the way in which Piefed handles blocking functions has nothing to do with Rimus position on Hexbear/Lemmygrad. I can’t see the meaningful connection there at all.
Most admin tools on Piefed, by the way, are crafted on the basis of trying to mitigate AI spam, trolling, abuse etc. Do you accept that?
What censorship tools are these? Are you going to refer to the reputation issue again?
Sure., that’s one of them, along with making blocking hexbear and lemmygrad blocked by default so unsuspecting new admins aren’t exposed to leftists, blocking the ability to reply entitely for blocked accounts, etc. Are you trying to convince me to like these features?
Doesn’t actually censor. The purpose of this is to identify potential troll accounts as yes, despite some more long-term users potentially getting hit with this for interacting in caustic debate communities a lot - 9/10 of people who get this tag are spammers, trolls etc.
This isn’t to do with trying to censor any political viewpoint though, and derives from not wanting users to receive repeated unwanted contact publicly from a user they’ve blocked.
It’s my understanding that social credit outright limits your ability to post, comment, vote, etc.
I understand, but it’s more unreasonable to suggest that the anti-communist views of Rimu played absolutely no part in deciding to make this a feature, intentionally or not. This opens up blocking to abuse, where one can abuse someone by blocking them and then smearing said user (as Open Stars does with their PieFed account and constantly smearing me as a sea-lion troll).
No, that’s if you heavily downvote. That’s your //attitude// - not your reputation. Heavy downvoters can lose the ability to downvote (not comment).
Sorry, nope. This just flatout does not follow at all. I see no reason why it would have had any relevance to this particular function whatsoever.
Yes, it can cause that. Of course it also goes both ways - without blocking working like that, a blocked user could just follow the person who has blocked them around on-site and continually pester them without them knowing. There is no good way to implement blocking that doesn’t have some level of disagreement from people.
Thanks for adding information on the social credit score, though I still don’t like it.
Humans do not simply lose all bias when developing things, creative outputs are a reflection of our views and ways of thinking, intentionally or not.
It’s better for blocked users to be able to clear their name and mods/admins take action if necessary than it is to entirely shut out interraction, if the end result from the user is the same. There’s no pestering if they can’t see it.
Bias for what? Again - many block systems work like the way Piefed has designed it. Your claim that it is somehow connected to his overarching dislike of communism here is completely and utterly baseless. Why should I just accept that? Because you claim it?
And that’s your position on it - but others disagree. The other user can’t see that (hypothetically) they’re being smeared and harassed across the Fediverse in this case. Whatever the disagreements here, it has nothing to do with trying to stop communists.
The argument you’re making is that the views, opinions, and ideas held by people have no impact on what they design or how if there isn’t a “smoking gun” linking them. This is absurd, though, as we couldn’t create without views, ideas, and opinions, and we cannot sipmply shut out all views we hold when creating. Rimu has already proven willingness to do so with default blocking Hexbear and Lemmygrad to begin with.
I’m aware others disagree with me, I’ve said PieFed exists for those that want it and Lemmy for those that want it. Others disagree with you, and that’s fine.
I’m saying that the way in which Piefed handles blocking functions has nothing to do with Rimus position on Hexbear/Lemmygrad. I can’t see the meaningful connection there at all.
Most admin tools on Piefed, by the way, are crafted on the basis of trying to mitigate AI spam, trolling, abuse etc. Do you accept that?