the remaining differences are mostly about aesthetics and not about the use of violence to maintain hegemony

  • mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de
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    3 days ago

    Tbh any doubt I had in his legitimacy is lessened by the U.S abducting him. That demonstrates he’s a legitimate problem for the U.S, which makes it more likely he’s a legitimate boon for the people of his own country (doesn’t confirm it, mind you)

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      I know it’s not a good line of reasoning, but if you legitimately adopted this mindset you’d be correct 85-99% of the time.

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        Could you clarify why it’s not good reasoning?

        • A = u.s. abducts leader
        • B = leader is a problem for the u.s.
        • C = leader is a boon to the people
        • D = leader is (likely) legitimately elected

        Argument:

        • If A then B
        • If B then C
        • If C then D
        • A
        • Therefore D

        We just need “If C then D” to chain A to D since the comment up top didn’t mention it . Oh, I think I see a problem here. In the us with leaders we constantly have “D and not C,” and even worse than the not C’s are the nazis. Ok, I’ll stop.

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          B doesn’t inherently mean C is correct, there’s just very strong correlation. It’s useful for quickly guessing, not for actual in-depth analysis. Though, the US did really love the Nazis for a good while, still does.

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            Yes that makes sense. The premises are too shaky for the argument to be sound despite the valid structure (which the commenter did not use and I pulled out of my ass).

            I was mainly writing it out as an exercise to myself but left it because it kinda worked as a joke lol

            I do very much appreciate an earnest answer.