Hello World!

As we’ve all known and talked about quite a lot, we previously blocked several piracy-focused communities. These communities, as announced, were:

In our removal announcement, we stated that we will continue to look into this more in detail, and re-allow these communities if and when we deem it safe. It was a solid concern at the time, because we were already receiving takedown requests as well as constant attacks, and didn’t want to put our volunteer team at risk. We had zero measures in place, and the tools we had were insufficient to deal with anything at scale.

Well, after back and forth with some very cool people, and starting to have proper measures as well as tooling to protect ourselves, we decided it’s time to welcome these communities back again. Long live the IT nerds!

We know it’s been a rough ride with everything, and we’d like to thank every one of you who were understanding of us, and stayed with us all the way. Please know that as users, you are what makes this platform what it is, and damned we be if we ever forget it.

With love, and as always, stay safe in the high seas!

Lemmy.world Team

❤️

  • Gamey@feddit.de
    1134·
    9 months ago

    I am fairly sure that good parts of that post are lies, I looked quite close at the situation when it happened and from all I could find those “takedown requests” was a single troll who got banned dbzer0 for their right extreme garbage. You also made claims about unmoderated illegal material in those communities which was simply wrong but I would have understood the move if you explained it like you do here right from the start and it’s great to see a mistake reversed! I am not going to pretend that this Federation while not actually illegal can’t cause annoyances and it’s great to see you reverse it despite that, keep it up! :)

    • Antik 👾@lemmy.world
      278·
      9 months ago

      “I DID MY OWN RESEARCH” vibes. What, you think takedown requests would be made in threads? Or that we would announce them publicly?

      You are absolutely clueless.

      • CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works
        21·
        9 months ago

        This isn’t just “their own research”, this was widely known at the height of all of this. Tbh the reaction here is super weird, but I’ve been away from World for a while so maybe this is just what it’s like now.

        Edit: Here’s a post that goes over it a little. Not in detail, but just talking about that troll a bit more and showing some modlogs.

        Edit: And here’s db0 literally confirming it

        • Antik 👾@lemmy.world
          1·
          9 months ago

          I gave a bit more background info as to what was going on in my reply on the crosspost on dbzer0: https://lemmy.world/comment/3950446

          It wasn’t just the takedown request, it was also the fact that we were moving to a different hosting company in another country. And having limited resources to handle the DDOS attacks, site moderation AND takedown request. db0 confirming what, that you still need to dedicate resources to it? Correct.

          • CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works
            21·
            9 months ago

            I appreciate the info, this was interesting to read through! I had heard a lot of people say that they didn’t think there were any actual takedown requests, so I’m glad to get some actual info there.

            Tbh though this makes your other comment a little harder to understand. So, you knew that the transphobe troll account thing actually happened, yet you treated the original commenter as if he was full of shit.

            Like yeah, as you showed there were a lot of reasons behind the decision. But I think it’s fair to say that this troll was very much one of those reasons, if not a major force in getting all of this rolling to begin with.

            Either way, thank you for the transparency. I was just surprised to see that commenter get so massively downvoted when they’re talking about events that literally happened.

            • AvaddonLFC ☄️ 🤘@lemmy.world
              31·
              9 months ago

              At least you’re not openly spreading misinformation about us anymore. And no, the troll wasn’t a reason behind any action, we banned the troll and all his alts before anyone else did. That drama just brought more attention to the matter at the time, it was waiting to happen anytime.

            • Antik 👾@lemmy.world
              1·
              9 months ago

              That guy above is calling us liars and saying there were no takedown requests while there were. Yes bungiefan was trolling but there was more going on, as I explained in the post I just linked you.

      • Gamey@feddit.de
        826·
        9 months ago

        You announced a clear reasoning publically that included a lot of questionable stuff, I am sorry if you got actual takedown requests too but I can’t know those if you don’t announce them. Again I won’t claim that this can’t cause you any trouble, just that the thread you published about blocking them wasn’t great…

      • Gamey@feddit.de
        916·
        9 months ago

        The original removal thread cited the report of a user who got banned from dbzer0 for transphobic messages and made a fresh account on lemmy.world just to report them and talked about potentially copyrighted material they don’t want to store. None of that matched with the responses from dbzer0 or my own experience on that instance. The Piracy and Arnachy instance has been one of the best examples of good moderation and civil behaviour on Lemmy since they moved here.

        • CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          9 months ago

          The response here is bizarre, to put it mildly. I thought everyone knew about that transphobe, and how this whole Lemmy.world anti-piracy thing started. Either way, sorry you got downvoted.

          • CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works
            21·
            9 months ago

            I’m confused, did people forget that this is what happened? The account that made the original post on Lemmy.world saying that they should defederate from dbzer0 was literally a transphobic troll account that had recently been banned by dbzer0. It was clear that they were just trying to screw the piracy communities for banning him, but Lemmy.world took the bait.

            This was pretty widely known so I’m kind of confused as to the response here.

            Edit: Here’s a post that goes over it a little. Not in detail, but just talking about that troll a bit more and showing some modlogs.

            Edit: And here’s db0 literally confirming it

    • Extreme Soup@lemmy.world
      145·
      9 months ago

      Tinfoil hat time 🤡.

      Takedown requests, ofc, companies & foundations should allways make those public 🙄🤯.

      • Gamey@feddit.de
        619·
        9 months ago

        If they write a thread with questionable reasoning I would expect them to include the actual reason as well or skip the thread but you guys are right, I don’t own a instance so I don’t have a clue about those actions…