I basically just assume that anything which is closed-source, networked and has sensors of any kind is a spying device. It’s easier than evaluating each one individually.
You don’t have to analyze options but you cut yourself off from many options by default. These days it’s hard to find options without “smort” features so there may be a time soon when it’s impossible to get some types of goods. I don’t think we’re there with everything yet, but its the direction society is moving.
Eh. Its an upfront decision that’s pretty easy to figure out if a TV or something has it. A TV being an extreme case where you know for near certain it has it even. Its about as hard as looking for anything else you care about in a product in most anything else this might be a concern with - I can quickly see if a TV is a smart TV or not.
Disclaimer: I am aware that the TV market specifically is kiiinda weird with their dedicated TV remote button deals that let them sell TV units at a loss (to then be remade by these deals). I still feel this is not much harder a way to live life… I mean, what, I’m gonna spend an extra 20 minutes looking for a TV?
You may have a different tv market but I don’t think it’s even possible to buy a dumb tv from a store anymore. I was able to get one pre-covid, I haven’t been able to find one since then.
I assume you meant to send this to the egg guy? Their point was that it’s closed source so you can’t trust it, so why would you trust it?
Speaking only for myself I just put the tv on an old router with my media server. Media server has a second connection to the internet. Tv thinks it’s connected to something but just doesn’t have internet access. That’s good enough for me. If they are jumping through that many hoops to learn I rewatch old tv shows from the 2000s I sure hope they get value from that knowledge.
I basically just assume that anything which is closed-source, networked and has sensors of any kind is a spying device. It’s easier than evaluating each one individually.
Easier from an analysis perspective, but seems a much harder way to live your life overall.
In what way?
You don’t have to analyze options but you cut yourself off from many options by default. These days it’s hard to find options without “smort” features so there may be a time soon when it’s impossible to get some types of goods. I don’t think we’re there with everything yet, but its the direction society is moving.
I see. I guess I don’t use some of the technology that others do, so I probably don’t have this problem to the same extent others would.
Eh. Its an upfront decision that’s pretty easy to figure out if a TV or something has it. A TV being an extreme case where you know for near certain it has it even. Its about as hard as looking for anything else you care about in a product in most anything else this might be a concern with - I can quickly see if a TV is a smart TV or not.
Disclaimer: I am aware that the TV market specifically is kiiinda weird with their dedicated TV remote button deals that let them sell TV units at a loss (to then be remade by these deals). I still feel this is not much harder a way to live life… I mean, what, I’m gonna spend an extra 20 minutes looking for a TV?
You may have a different tv market but I don’t think it’s even possible to buy a dumb tv from a store anymore. I was able to get one pre-covid, I haven’t been able to find one since then.
You can set up Google TV, WebOS and Tizen TVs without WiFi and just use the HDMI ports.
I assume you meant to send this to the egg guy? Their point was that it’s closed source so you can’t trust it, so why would you trust it?
Speaking only for myself I just put the tv on an old router with my media server. Media server has a second connection to the internet. Tv thinks it’s connected to something but just doesn’t have internet access. That’s good enough for me. If they are jumping through that many hoops to learn I rewatch old tv shows from the 2000s I sure hope they get value from that knowledge.