I feel like a lot of people are missing the obvious conclusion that everyone involved here is awful.
Maduro? Brutal dictator.
His domestic opposition? Violent fascists.
His international opposition? Absolute war criminals.
It’s really sad. My primary opinion is that the US needs to leave Venezuela the fuck alone. If you want democracy in Venezuela, you can’t get it through sanctioning the population into starvation if they don’t vote the way Chevron tells them to. Did Maduro steal an election? Yes! But his opposition at home and abroad isn’t mad that it wasn’t fair: they’re mad because they think it’s bullshit for him to steal it after they stole it first!
Get the fuck out and let them actually decide what they want. The US is the clearly the greatest villain in a story with no obvious good guys.
The problem is that all of the “evidence” for Maduro cheating comes from the same people that said the US 2020 election was rigged, and are using it as ammo for regime change. Machado and the like are fascists that are trying to topple a democratically elected socialist, just like Pinochet with Allende.
Maduro cheating comes from the same people that said the US 2020 election was rigged
Do you have a source for that? Because from what I can tell, the exact opposite is true, and the sources for these two claims are generally opposed to each other.
Trump’s entire imperialist cabinet roughly orbit around the idea of the election being stolen, and are the biggest pushers of claims of fraud. The reasoning for the former was to try to overturn turn the US election, the reasoning is the same for the Venezuelan election, they would rather have the fascist opposition win. It’s another Allende situation.
All sources are biased, but leftist sources portray a working class perspective and this are more to be trusted on the enemied of Empire than the Empire itself.
That about sums up the extent of your ability to counter what I said. Complain about leftist sources supporting leftist presidents, then you just jump to mockery.
Liberal ideology is very good at coming up with thought-terminating epithets that allow the user to avoid thinking about what other people have to say. After all, a religious devotion to avoiding non-sanctioned narratives is the only way it can protect itself. It sure as hell can’t compete in the “marketplace of ideas”.
You’re citing biased imperial sources. An unbiased source is a myth, because everyone has some kind of agenda. Of course I’m going to believe sources that have been truthful in service of a humanitarian agenda over sources that have been Iying nonstop in service of rich pedophiles for as long as I’ve been alive.
I feel like a lot of people are missing the obvious conclusion that everyone involved here is awful.
Maduro? Brutal dictator. His domestic opposition? Violent fascists. His international opposition? Absolute war criminals.
It’s really sad. My primary opinion is that the US needs to leave Venezuela the fuck alone. If you want democracy in Venezuela, you can’t get it through sanctioning the population into starvation if they don’t vote the way Chevron tells them to. Did Maduro steal an election? Yes! But his opposition at home and abroad isn’t mad that it wasn’t fair: they’re mad because they think it’s bullshit for him to steal it after they stole it first!
Get the fuck out and let them actually decide what they want. The US is the clearly the greatest villain in a story with no obvious good guys.
The problem is that all of the “evidence” for Maduro cheating comes from the same people that said the US 2020 election was rigged, and are using it as ammo for regime change. Machado and the like are fascists that are trying to topple a democratically elected socialist, just like Pinochet with Allende.
Under Maduro, Venezuelan communes and participatory democracy is flourishing. In addition, massive social programs have been implemented, focusing on housing, food security, and poverty eradication. I’m not sure on what basis you distrust him so much, Venezuela is building socialism under Maduro from the bottom-up, and Maduro is doing his part from the top.
Maduro is no dictator just like Allende wasn’t.
Do you have a source for that? Because from what I can tell, the exact opposite is true, and the sources for these two claims are generally opposed to each other.
Trump’s entire imperialist cabinet roughly orbit around the idea of the election being stolen, and are the biggest pushers of claims of fraud. The reasoning for the former was to try to overturn turn the US election, the reasoning is the same for the Venezuelan election, they would rather have the fascist opposition win. It’s another Allende situation.
Cites biased leftist sources for info:
All sources are biased, but leftist sources portray a working class perspective and this are more to be trusted on the enemied of Empire than the Empire itself.
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That about sums up the extent of your ability to counter what I said. Complain about leftist sources supporting leftist presidents, then you just jump to mockery.
I don’t feed trolls
Troll, bot, russian, terrorist
Liberal ideology is very good at coming up with thought-terminating epithets that allow the user to avoid thinking about what other people have to say. After all, a religious devotion to avoiding non-sanctioned narratives is the only way it can protect itself. It sure as hell can’t compete in the “marketplace of ideas”.
I’m not a troll, though, and you know that. You’re just lazily dismissing me as such because you’ve been caught out.
You’re citing biased imperial sources. An unbiased source is a myth, because everyone has some kind of agenda. Of course I’m going to believe sources that have been truthful in service of a humanitarian agenda over sources that have been Iying nonstop in service of rich pedophiles for as long as I’ve been alive.
Ahh yes, the famous humanitarian Nicolas Maduro
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