• Solumbran@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    How many more years are going to be wasted with this crap?

    Everyone knows that both in theory and practice, AIs are shit are producing code; the only ones who don’t are the ones who are themselves unable to produce decent code and refuse to see the problem.

    But yes, let’s keep on pushing more and more until everything is drowned in worthless crap, as if we didn’t already have enough issues with humans producing crap like web technologies, now they’ll be riddled by even more crap.

    • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      12 hours ago

      how many more years

      As many as possible running down the clock on climate change and putting our whole economy towards less-than-useless bullshit.

      Killing truth, sloppifying everyone is the point.

    • Capitalism is happy to have cheap code that works “well enough” to sell, and mostly prefers it to expensive code that works “really well.”

      The future is full of buggy ass code that runs most services and devices, who’s main priority is vacuuming up data about its users and everyone and everything around them, and then a few high quality products and services only the rich can afford.

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      I think people are too polite to call shitty programmers out on being shitty. It’s probably not a fair assumption, but whenever I see someone admit they use some AI coding tool, I immediately assume they’re either a junior, or one of those people who just were never intelligent enough to be a good developer, and ended up getting filtered into some low skill web dev job. Those are the kinds of people who probably feel threatened by AI, and I feel are more likely to use it.

      We need to make elitism and public shaming cool again.

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        16 hours ago

        You are literally the kind of ignorant people I’m talking about.

        It’s like telling a guy who makes wooden jewelry that “dude if u not faster with chainsaw I dunno what to say”, or to someone trying to take down a wall between two rooms that a bulldozer would be faster.

        I still cannot comprehend that some people would be “smart” enough to understand basic programming, but then be absurdly lacking understanding of the matter to end with the conclusion that coding “skill” is about speed.

        I just don’t know how to even make an example that explains how absurd that is. It’s like having a random naked dude in an archery competition screaming that he won because he shot his arrows faster than all the other contestant, even though most of them landed in the crowd.

        I am really at a loss for words for how absurdly stupid that kind of vision of programming and technology is.

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          Truth is everybody isn’t doing archery.

          You’ve been given electricity and you prefer to use hand tools. Yes I get that there is a niche, but to complain about rough edges when cutting down trees cos the chainsaw was too fast, will depend om what you’re making.

          If you’re in a plane or a car, then yes sure. But still, I’d rather my electricity and wrap tests around it and tell it not to use emojis and refine its output then be stuck writing boiler and no autocomplete…

          You’ll find your complaining niche on the internet but the truth is everybody else that is using it just shuts up and gets on with producing value rather than being pedantic on code that will work and probably be read twice maybe 10times max again. Sure it might not be optimized, but who is optimizing first go? What a waste of time.

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        I’m literally slower with AI, because I have to waste my time review slop generated code that looks convincing rather than actually works.

        If they tried at least to write the code themselves they would get better over time

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        23 hours ago

        If you’re faster with “AI”, all I can say is, learn to fucking code, scrub. If you cannot spot that shit as shit from a mile away, you SUCK at coding and shouldn’t be doing code reviews either way.