The cheapest food would be raw ingredients like rice, beans etc. That way you can eat an appropriate amount and not feel hungry. Also let’s not pretend like frozen veggies are more expensive than McDonalds or other restaurants.
Otherwise eating less is always cheaper, you just might feel hungry.
Yeah you’re right. Everyone is responsible for their choices and advertisers are just wanting their time feeding us ads that have no effect on is at all.
I mean, I feel like the argument about food deserts and poverty and such has some validity. But otoh, I have known many overweight people in my life with good jobs and plenty of options and opportunities to buy real food, and they don’t do it. And imma say that’s their fault.
Of course you’ll say that; it fits your narrative. Having money doesn’t negate the accessibility and promotion of ultra processed food. A person can have a good job and make plenty of money, but not have time or effort to cook at home or stick to a specific plan. Some people may have health conditions that make them fat like thyroid issues or hell even depression which circularly makes people less likely to eat healthier. Regardless, UPF is the easiest to acquire, purposefully addictive and super cheap not unlike any other addictive substance.
The real issue is society has created these problems, provided the lucrative solutions and brainwashed people like you into blaming the victims because your experience isn’t like theirs.
My experience is theirs. I grew up in a household that never had any real money issues, and was consistently fed UPFs. Drank probably around 6 sodas per day. Then one day I said “I’m tired of being fat. Why am I fat? Maybe its because I eat so much junk food, since it is well known that junk food makes you fat.” So I stopped eating junk food and now I’m not fat. My parents and other people I knew in my hometown, meanwhile, continued eating junk food, and have continued to gain weight. I will firmly classify this as “their fault”.
I don’t hate fat people. I just think that when my dad, for example, who is a boomer with a paid off house, a cushy management office job, and a significant 6 figure salary, goes to McDonalds on his lunch break, that that is a choice he made
It’s like the two things can be true at once without conflicting – but America would have to be huge at that point, and filled with hundreds of millions of people of vastly different economic standing, but it’s possible. Can you imagine?~
If they have easily accessible healthier options, kinda.
The point is that they often do not have those options due to availability, cost, access, etc.
That’s why I said easily accessible.
I think the point is that they also often do.
Is healthy food shoved into people’s faces? You see giant signs on highways for healthy restaurants? Is the cheapest food healthy? Come on…
The cheapest food would be raw ingredients like rice, beans etc. That way you can eat an appropriate amount and not feel hungry. Also let’s not pretend like frozen veggies are more expensive than McDonalds or other restaurants.
Otherwise eating less is always cheaper, you just might feel hungry.
Personal responsibility absolutely plays a role here.
I know you certainly need it to.
I have it. I know when I make poor diet decisions it’s on me, not anyone else.
And if those poor diet choices weren’t around what would you eat? You’re almost there…
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I’d eat healthier food because I’d have to.
That has absolutely nothing to do with people who have access to healthy foods choosing to eat unhealthy foods.
If I go out and buy a bottle of liquor, I can’t blame liquor advertising for my choice to break my sobriety. That would be all on me.
Yeah you’re right. Everyone is responsible for their choices and advertisers are just wanting their time feeding us ads that have no effect on is at all.
I mean, I feel like the argument about food deserts and poverty and such has some validity. But otoh, I have known many overweight people in my life with good jobs and plenty of options and opportunities to buy real food, and they don’t do it. And imma say that’s their fault.
Of course you’ll say that; it fits your narrative. Having money doesn’t negate the accessibility and promotion of ultra processed food. A person can have a good job and make plenty of money, but not have time or effort to cook at home or stick to a specific plan. Some people may have health conditions that make them fat like thyroid issues or hell even depression which circularly makes people less likely to eat healthier. Regardless, UPF is the easiest to acquire, purposefully addictive and super cheap not unlike any other addictive substance.
The real issue is society has created these problems, provided the lucrative solutions and brainwashed people like you into blaming the victims because your experience isn’t like theirs.
My experience is theirs. I grew up in a household that never had any real money issues, and was consistently fed UPFs. Drank probably around 6 sodas per day. Then one day I said “I’m tired of being fat. Why am I fat? Maybe its because I eat so much junk food, since it is well known that junk food makes you fat.” So I stopped eating junk food and now I’m not fat. My parents and other people I knew in my hometown, meanwhile, continued eating junk food, and have continued to gain weight. I will firmly classify this as “their fault”.
Ah right. You were fat now you hate fat people. That makes more sense to why you’re the way you are.
I don’t hate fat people. I just think that when my dad, for example, who is a boomer with a paid off house, a cushy management office job, and a significant 6 figure salary, goes to McDonalds on his lunch break, that that is a choice he made
It’s like the two things can be true at once without conflicting – but America would have to be huge at that point, and filled with hundreds of millions of people of vastly different economic standing, but it’s possible. Can you imagine?~