The real irony is paying Google what you’d pay for an iPhone 16 and getting iPhone 11 performance and they’re spying on you and selling your personal information to who knows who. Okay but you wiped the phone and installed custom firmware that doesn’t track you… but you still paid Google the price of current-gen iPhone and got a phone with the performance of one from 5 years ago. Google still won.
The personal information is the point, that’s the real gold mine, and they’ll get it from enough people to not care about the less than 1% of Pixel owners flashing Graphene. For those users, they’re happy to sell generations-old tech at a premium. And they call you a sucker behind your back. And then tell you Apple is the big corporate overlord you’re running from and make it sound like Apple is the enemy. (I’m not saying they’re not, but that’s a convenient story among fandroids. And it may not even be accurate. Because iOS has no open source component though… we don’t know.)
As a GrapheneOS user, having the fastest hardware is not the goal. Pixels can be purchased for a very reasonable price second-hand or from discount resellers. Apple’s hardware is indeed remarkable and iOS being closed-source is not the root of the issue - it’s that they insist on a heavily locked down bootloader, so I will not for a moment consider Apple unless by some miracle they open up their phones to third-party OSes.
No, probably not. I’m just saying Google absolutely does sell your personal information. Apple says they don’t. What I said was that because it’s closed source, we don’t actually know.
We do know that Apple does track certain things. Telemetry, they all do it. What we don’t know is if they sell personally identifiable information. I think if it could be proven that they do, someone could sue over their “Privacy. That’s iPhone” campaign. They certainly wouldn’t be able to use it in any country where false advertising is not legal.
The difference between a computer company and an advertising agency, I suppose.
The real irony is paying Google what you’d pay for an iPhone 16 and getting iPhone 11 performance and they’re spying on you and selling your personal information to who knows who. Okay but you wiped the phone and installed custom firmware that doesn’t track you… but you still paid Google the price of current-gen iPhone and got a phone with the performance of one from 5 years ago. Google still won.
The personal information is the point, that’s the real gold mine, and they’ll get it from enough people to not care about the less than 1% of Pixel owners flashing Graphene. For those users, they’re happy to sell generations-old tech at a premium. And they call you a sucker behind your back. And then tell you Apple is the big corporate overlord you’re running from and make it sound like Apple is the enemy. (I’m not saying they’re not, but that’s a convenient story among fandroids. And it may not even be accurate. Because iOS has no open source component though… we don’t know.)
As a GrapheneOS user, having the fastest hardware is not the goal. Pixels can be purchased for a very reasonable price second-hand or from discount resellers. Apple’s hardware is indeed remarkable and iOS being closed-source is not the root of the issue - it’s that they insist on a heavily locked down bootloader, so I will not for a moment consider Apple unless by some miracle they open up their phones to third-party OSes.
wait…you think…having an iphone spares you from all of that? oh you sweet summer child.
No, probably not. I’m just saying Google absolutely does sell your personal information. Apple says they don’t. What I said was that because it’s closed source, we don’t actually know.
We do know that Apple does track certain things. Telemetry, they all do it. What we don’t know is if they sell personally identifiable information. I think if it could be proven that they do, someone could sue over their “Privacy. That’s iPhone” campaign. They certainly wouldn’t be able to use it in any country where false advertising is not legal.
The difference between a computer company and an advertising agency, I suppose.
i don’t trust apple to protect my data and sell it as much as alphabet does.