Oh yeah, general lack of genuine conversation is a huge problem, both in-group and out-group. If we all just discussed believing in good faith and without trying to just “win”, things would be a lot better. It is difficult now that there’s so much polarization going on, and a lot of real trolls spouting disinformation and trying to just get people angry… which sadly seems to be working a lot of the times. Personally I’ve lost my faith already and just tend to avoid taking part these days, which I do recognize is also one of the problems; since when people stop engaging because things are unpleasant, it leads to only the loudest and shittiest to stay to fight each other, which doesn’t exactly improve anything