You don’t realize it, but this is actually a non sequitur. You’re right, I am a carnist! I don’t see a moral issue with a human (animal) eating an animal or animal based product. In fact, lots of animals eat animals!
You’re wrong, however, to say that I view animals as products. I do take issue with the industries relating to animal consumption. I take issue with the damage they do to the planet, I take issue with the way they treat the animals, and I take issue with the hygiene and working conditions for those involved. Ideally, I’d live in a world where it was possible to morally eat whatever you fancy. Unfortunately, I live in a world where you have to eat what you can afford.
Depends on the situation, if you’re a hunter gatherer and it’s your only source of sustinance sure, if you can get whatever you want from the supermarket choosing to still eat animals that’s needlessly cruel
Literally the only animal products I consume are ones that are cheaper to buy than alternatives: dairy cheese and eggs.
I spend extra on alternative milks. Alternative eggs are more expensive or significantly more effort (yes tofu scramble is doable. No I don’t have the time). I could live without cheese, or on alternative cheeses. But, cheese actually makes up a pretty large sum of calorie intake because it is cheap and can be made to be relatively healthy in most dishes.
It all boils down to money. I already spend extra money on alternative meats, and milks and raw fruits and vegetables. I still have to have money for my other responsibilities, so I make some dietary sacrifices. But I’m sure that poverty isn’t a good enough reason to sacrifice my purity to most vegans.
Ye, that does sound fair. Honest question; do you bake? In what way are eggs necessary? I’ve only been vegan for about two months, and haven’t missed eggs in any way; tofu scramble takes like 5 minutes, I just mix it in a pan, it’s good. I’m on a fairly low/ average budget and I manage to hit my calorie goals, macros and even gained a bit of weight (have had struggles with that my whole life)
Also where do you live? I’m lucky that milks are only slightly more expensive. I haven’t had any alternative meat, my proteins come from mostly legumes. And raw fruits and veggies are considered vegan food? I thought everyone was having those.
Also why care about “vegan purity checks”, you’re doing better than like 90% of people, the most important thing is to be happy with yourself.
You don’t realize it, but this is actually a non sequitur. You’re right, I am a carnist! I don’t see a moral issue with a human (animal) eating an animal or animal based product. In fact, lots of animals eat animals!
You’re wrong, however, to say that I view animals as products. I do take issue with the industries relating to animal consumption. I take issue with the damage they do to the planet, I take issue with the way they treat the animals, and I take issue with the hygiene and working conditions for those involved. Ideally, I’d live in a world where it was possible to morally eat whatever you fancy. Unfortunately, I live in a world where you have to eat what you can afford.
Depends on the situation, if you’re a hunter gatherer and it’s your only source of sustinance sure, if you can get whatever you want from the supermarket choosing to still eat animals that’s needlessly cruel
God I wish I had that kind of money
legumes and plant stuff is generally cheaper than animal stuff, so it’s a good way to save too potentially
Literally the only animal products I consume are ones that are cheaper to buy than alternatives: dairy cheese and eggs.
I spend extra on alternative milks. Alternative eggs are more expensive or significantly more effort (yes tofu scramble is doable. No I don’t have the time). I could live without cheese, or on alternative cheeses. But, cheese actually makes up a pretty large sum of calorie intake because it is cheap and can be made to be relatively healthy in most dishes.
It all boils down to money. I already spend extra money on alternative meats, and milks and raw fruits and vegetables. I still have to have money for my other responsibilities, so I make some dietary sacrifices. But I’m sure that poverty isn’t a good enough reason to sacrifice my purity to most vegans.
The time, for tofu scramble? It’s literally quicker cheaper and much healthier than doing it with eggs???
Same thing with egg salad, etc. few packs of silken tofu in a Tupperware with black salt, butter, etc.
any sources on eggs being unhealthy? I don’t eat them for ethical reasons but I thought they were full of good nutrients and minerals and such
Ye, that does sound fair. Honest question; do you bake? In what way are eggs necessary? I’ve only been vegan for about two months, and haven’t missed eggs in any way; tofu scramble takes like 5 minutes, I just mix it in a pan, it’s good. I’m on a fairly low/ average budget and I manage to hit my calorie goals, macros and even gained a bit of weight (have had struggles with that my whole life) Also where do you live? I’m lucky that milks are only slightly more expensive. I haven’t had any alternative meat, my proteins come from mostly legumes. And raw fruits and veggies are considered vegan food? I thought everyone was having those. Also why care about “vegan purity checks”, you’re doing better than like 90% of people, the most important thing is to be happy with yourself.
No you were right in the first paragraph. I was right, it wasn’t a non sequitur.