• The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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    my experience is that they get lumped in with either eastern europe or central europe depending on the context and whether on not it supports what someone says. for americans, they’re a lot like Virginia or Kentucky where “are they part of the south” will depend on who you ask, and the context you ask in

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      To illustrate your point, I’m from Georgia, Kentucky is part of the south, Virginia ain’t. And while I’m at it neither is Texas. Texas is its own thing and Virginia is DC

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        as a virginian by birth i find this stance INSANE haha. i generally go by “suceded? south.”

        the thing to understand is that just as ther are multiple americas, there are multiple Virginias. NoVA being lumped in with DC? sure. anything south and west of Culpepper? what?

        virginia beach and reachmond is also its own thing distinct from DC, SWVA, and Southside.

        but Ketucky is SUPER different from much of the rest of the south by my experience in southen appalachia, georgia, alabama, and louisana.

        texas and florida are both interesting cases of both being Sutouthern and Their Own Thing

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          Just to be clear I ain’t got a problem with Virginians in any way, but every one of yall I’ve met seems more “Atlantic” than southern. But I’m sure the closer you get to West Virginia, Kentucky, and Tennessee the more that wanes.

          Kentucky gets in because both bluegrass, bourbon, the derby, and because Tennessee vouches for them

          You ain’t wrong about Florida either. The way I generally look at it is if you draw a line eastwards from the most southern part of the panhandle, everything north of that line is the south. The rest can be either corp or Caribbean.

          As for Texas… they have a lot of southern qualities I ain’t gonna front, but there are just so many ways they don’t fit. A Texan is always show offy compared to someone from say Alabama

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            nah for sure. didn’t think you had issue. was just super happy it got to help us demonstrate to outsiders what i was originally saying about VA and KY. it is also reflective of my experiences of how people discuss Czechia. according to Italians, they’re eastern. according to Poles they’re central. ultimately, these distinctions are only useful in certain contexts that matter for how you’re talking about the differences. ultimately, the conclusion is we, across the globe, are one people. our local cultures are also just that: local. i expect if you and i sat down to share spoonbread, our spoonbreads would taste different, but we’d understand the differences better than someone from Maryland or Delaware ever could