So first off it targets women getting cosmetic surgery and not really men getting them, since societally one is more accepted than the other. (Hair transplant vs boob job). The societal pressure to look a certain ideal is much higher on women than on men, and the ridicule women receive for surgeries done is disproportionally higher. So simply hiding behind “I meant all people not just women” when you very explicitly made fun of a (fictional) woman getting cosmetic surgery is just retrofitting a defense.
Secondly, presenting it as a generational thing presents it as just that, not as a wealth inequality thing.
Thirdly, body modifications (tattoos, piercings and surgeries) should not be ridiculed or shamed. They are part of how someone chooses to present themselves to the world and everyone should be free to do that just how they want. It doesn’t matter how misguided you think it might be, not your body not your say. This ties neatly into fighting the transphobic idea that “any surgery will look fake and trans women can always be ‘clocked’”.
I didn’t mean that women get made fun of for getting hair transplants, I was trying to illustrate how one is a much more common trope than the other.
I’m not sure what the rest of your comment is meant to address. If it is merely to inform me that men also get made fun for plastic surgery, then don’t worry I’m aware which is why I used phrases like
The societal pressure to look a certain ideal is much higher on women than on men
and
the ridicule women receive for surgeries done is disproportionally higher
Note that the “higher” keyword explicitly acknowledges that it exists for men as well.
If it is meant to say that jokes about people getting plastic surgery being dumb are fine since they target men too then see the rest of my comment. Plus that they don’t target men as much as they do women. Making fun of the “dolled up bimbo” is a much more common trope than of men.
I dont think I understand your point? Or what you are trying to say, like no archaeologists wouldn’t find hair transplants like that and therefore…?
Edit: and i think even if inaccurate it would work just as well as a “joke”, note all the impossibilities in the current picture. Her nails, how she’s holding her phone, the breast implants at the exact location and so on
Just that I think you guys are reading too much into it. I’m pretty sure the joke doesnt need to go much further than “imagine digging that up on a history dig”
So first off it targets women getting cosmetic surgery and not really men getting them, since societally one is more accepted than the other. (Hair transplant vs boob job). The societal pressure to look a certain ideal is much higher on women than on men, and the ridicule women receive for surgeries done is disproportionally higher. So simply hiding behind “I meant all people not just women” when you very explicitly made fun of a (fictional) woman getting cosmetic surgery is just retrofitting a defense.
Secondly, presenting it as a generational thing presents it as just that, not as a wealth inequality thing.
Thirdly, body modifications (tattoos, piercings and surgeries) should not be ridiculed or shamed. They are part of how someone chooses to present themselves to the world and everyone should be free to do that just how they want. It doesn’t matter how misguided you think it might be, not your body not your say. This ties neatly into fighting the transphobic idea that “any surgery will look fake and trans women can always be ‘clocked’”.
I wrote more about the misogyny reinforced by “haha plastic surgery is for dumb bimbos” here: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/15796191
I actualy did not know women get made fun of for hair transplants. I am actually sorry for anyone who has to go through that double standard.
Tho for plastic surgery side there are “muscle inplants” and other eqivalents. And guys who get that are really not getting away from criticism lol.
I didn’t mean that women get made fun of for getting hair transplants, I was trying to illustrate how one is a much more common trope than the other.
I’m not sure what the rest of your comment is meant to address. If it is merely to inform me that men also get made fun for plastic surgery, then don’t worry I’m aware which is why I used phrases like
and
Note that the “higher” keyword explicitly acknowledges that it exists for men as well.
If it is meant to say that jokes about people getting plastic surgery being dumb are fine since they target men too then see the rest of my comment. Plus that they don’t target men as much as they do women. Making fun of the “dolled up bimbo” is a much more common trope than of men.
Yeah but the specific joke here wouldn’t work so well with hair transplants. Pretty sure they’ll decompose with the rest of the body right?
I dont think I understand your point? Or what you are trying to say, like no archaeologists wouldn’t find hair transplants like that and therefore…?
Edit: and i think even if inaccurate it would work just as well as a “joke”, note all the impossibilities in the current picture. Her nails, how she’s holding her phone, the breast implants at the exact location and so on
Just that I think you guys are reading too much into it. I’m pretty sure the joke doesnt need to go much further than “imagine digging that up on a history dig”
and what is “that” if not a sexist caricature of a woman?
I think we both might need to learn to pick our battles lol