I’ve been seeing this more and more in comments, and it’s got me wondering just how big this issue really is. A lot of people feel trapped in apps like Discord, WhatsApp, and Instagram, but can’t get their friends to leave.

It’s really annoying when you suggest trying something new, whether it’s a different app or just not using these platforms so much but sometimes it can feel like no one wants to go first.

So I’m curious, what apps do you feel most trapped in? And have you tried convincing your friends to leave them? What happened? Is it an issue for you, or are you just going along with the flow?

Looking forward to hearing if this is as common as it feels!

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    But what we need is for someone like Mozilla to make a messaging app

    Hoping for a company to make a chat app

    And at a reasonable price…

    Are we paying for fediverse services? Are there any companies involved?

    Privacy isn’t free - if anyone should be in doubt.

    Matrix is federated, private, and free…

    What exactly did I make up? Were you hoping for a company to make a for-profit federated app?

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      Are we paying for fediverse services?

      You may not be, but many of us are. None of it is free, from development to hosting to administrating. That works okay for now, but might be a limiting factor.

      Edit: I also thing community stewardship could work better than it does.

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        I was responding in the context of users paying for access, the same thing OC was talking about. You would then need to create a for-profit entity in order to be able to charge for the use of the app.

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      Mozilla is more an organisation than a company. It turns profit to work for the free internet, in a world where companies with billions oppose it. But yeah, I’m sure that this federated (which also means an organisation of a sort) will prevail on it’s own. Nice banner you have here - and the following is surely huge! ;-)

      And feddit du cost money - the cost is just shared by the ones making and maintaining the serves and software. But hey, keep believing it’s free…

      Matrix is not free. It might be private - who knows for sure? And it’s not used by many…

      Where did I write “for profit”? Are you really that clueless? A reasonable price, is what it cost to develop and maintain it, and promote it. You know, just like Mozilla does. It’s not a “for profit” company, it’s an organisation for internet privacy and freedom. So please stop you lies. That’s a childish way to try to argue!

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        Mozilla is more an organisation than a company. It turns profit to work for the free internet

        There are 2 organizations, the Mozilla foundation and it’s subsidiary the Mozilla corporation. The corp is a for-profit entity, they’re the ones developing software, and generating revenue (mainly through the Google search deal).

        in a world where companies with billions oppose it.

        Source? The main opposition to Mozilla are ad agencies, and former employees who think they’ve abandoned their values (pocket, Google, AI, MDN, etc.). Their main opposition in the browser space has been keeping them afloat for years.

        But yeah, I’m sure that this federated (which also means an organisation of a sort) will prevail on it’s own. Nice banner you have here - and the following is surely huge! ;-)

        Wtf are you talking about? Learn what the federated part of fediverse means.

        Also, love how you’re talking shit about federated services on a federated service. You can’t make this up.

        And feddit du cost money - the cost is just shared by the ones making and maintaining the serves and software. But hey, keep believing it’s free…

        No shit hosting cost money, I was specifically talking about the cost to the end user, the same thing as you…

        Matrix is not free. It might be private - who knows for sure? And it’s not used by many…

        Lmao

        Matrix is a FOSS protocol, and there are multiple FOSS apps using that protocol. You can even host it on your own if you want to be absolutely sure nobody can get any possible metadata. You literally can’t get more sure than that unless you write it yourself…

        Where did I write “for profit”? Are you really that clueless? A reasonable price, is what it cost to develop and maintain it, and promote it. You know, just like Mozilla does. It’s not a “for profit” company, it’s an organisation for internet privacy and freedom.

        Again, the Mozilla corporation is a for-profit entity, and that’s why they’re able to charge for premium services…

        So please stop you lies. That’s a childish way to try to argue!

        Do a bit of research instead of spouting nonsense, calling names, and throwing tantrums. It’s not very mature.

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          You are funny. Pocket is a core value?!?

          I’m talking truth about a federated service on a federated service. Can’t you handle that? Are you too fragile for that?

          And childish as you are, you assume you know what I’m talking about. That’s just a pathetic move! Learn to debate, and stop lying!

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            You are funny. Pocket is a core value?!?

            I know your reading comprehension, or thinking for that matter, is not so good, but try to take the whole sentence and figure out how those examples fit in.

            Can’t you handle that? Are you too fragile for that?

            Don’t worry, I can handle laughing at you just fine. You seem to be losing it though.

            And childish as you are, you assume you know what I’m talking about. That’s just a pathetic move! Learn to debate, and stop lying!

            Holy shit, this must be what talking to Trump is like. You see an argument you don’t like, start screaming incoherent nonsense and fake news, mix in a few insults that make you feel superior, and end up thinking you’re debating anything.