I think I know the answer, bit maybe I’m missing something

Since proton only sends and receives encrypted emails to other proton accounts, that means that when you get or send an email to someone else, they have to send / receive unencrypted and there is no way for us to verify what they are doing. Right?

Also if most accounts are google Microsoft, they still get 90% of my emails. By switching to proton I think I’ve gained nothing, while losing convenience , added another trust point, and having two different companies have my data instead of just one

Proton drive, calendar and VPN I think are fine

Sorry for the poor syntax. I’m at work working on email related things, and this topic kept distracting me. I might correct it later

    • suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world
      31·
      16 days ago

      There’s really no viable way to run your own email server with actual delivery anymore

      SMTP relays make IP reputation a complete non-issue. As long as you aren’t sending hundreds of emails a day, there are multiple free options (free tier, subsidized by paying corporate customers who send a lot of emails).

        • suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world
          2·
          16 days ago

          a transactional SMTP provider, which is almost certainly selling all outgoing email contents for AI training at least if not even more nefarious things.

          That’s a big assumption, and that kind of behavior is specifically prohibited in the privacy policy of most, if not all SMTP relay providers, as well as GDPR regulations. If you think they’re violating their own privacy policy and government regulations and doing it anyway, there’s no reason to think Proton isn’t as well, or any other email provider, so that’s kind of a non-starter argument IMO. Plus this only applies to outgoing emails, not incoming. I don’t know about you, but I send about 5-10 outgoing emails a year, there’s not much to be gleaned there. Incoming is what you’d want to protect more than anything.

    • notarobot@lemmy.zipOP
      1·
      16 days ago

      The thing that razorblades have real tangible consequences. I’m talking about something you can’t even verify. Sire, in principle those that claim not to do something are better, but with that logic, WhatsApp, telegram, and the Facebook messenger are perfectly valid communication platforms and all 3 claim e2ee.