Thousands of subreddits are still dark.
So after saying for weeks, if not months, that the new pricing wasn’t designed to kill third-party apps, he’s now saying the exact opposite? And thus admitting that Reddit lied to its community for the whole?
Please, can someone give to this dude any PR training? Even the bare minimum would be an improvement at this point.
He’s so bad at this that I can’t help but believe he’s actually trying to kill Reddit.
At this point, he needs “stfu training”.
Let it go, overwrite your content and leave reddit.
Deleted my account with the message “Your contempt for your users disgusts me”. Oh well, account since 2012 permanently gone. Long live the Fediverse!
So they designed an API that they didn’t intend thirdparties to use at all? And documented it publicly without the intention of any devs reading the docs? Right.
What annoys me the most is that they would rather force users to see their ads and interract with their new and useless engagement features than just take payment directly from us, the users, for accessing the API. I’ll gladly pay for a premium++ ultra gold plus reddit subscription to continue using Sync. I don’t get why they would rather charge the 3rd party devs that literally gives them more users.
And the api didn’t expose ads. It’s not like the apps chose not to display them. It wasn’t even an option.
What should bother you is not the particularities of the pricing. It’s the overtly dirty dealing. Even the Apollo dev said he might have been able to make the pricing work, but certainly not in just 30 days. Admins said there would be time – months of it – and only gave 30 days. They said pricing would be based on reality, but no sensible analysis indicates that it is. Admins told the users they were worthless and literally defamed devs that were trying to work with them.
There were tons of ways they could’ve gotten ads in front of people. This wasn’t about ads. This wasn’t about some particular price point. This is about getting users onto their official app or website, presumably to mine data and control conversations.
The infinite free VC ran out when interest rates went up. Suddenly, real financial pressures they had plenty of time to address and never bothered worrying about were at the door. So they revved up the enshitification engine and got to the hard work of destroying the only source of value the site had.
If they came out tomorrow and declared they would keep the API free and that Spez was fired, it oughtn’t change how you feel. It’s time to be off that site.
It seems all reddit pricing is made to keep you away from anything that would give you control over what you see. The price of Reddit premium is about as realistic as the price they set for the API. Reddit seems to make at most 1$/year in advertising per user, so to block ads it’s 40$/year O_o… And they’ll still track & manipulate you in all kinds of other ways…
I don’t think anyone is saying that Reddit shouldn’t charge the 3rd party apps. Pretty sure they just wanted fair pricing.
If they would have just made it so that you needed Reddit Premium to use 3rd party apps I would have thought that was fair and subscribed
Find it hilarious how perfectly this solution solves all of the problems reddit spoke about.
Reddit not profitable enough? Not enough premium subs? Third party app users can’t view ads? Api use is too high and you’re not making money off of it? Making premium a prerequisite for third party app use hits all 4 birds with one stone lol.
