• Sniatch@lemmy.world
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    I don’t understand why is it popular to shit on Bethesda games? Just don’t play it if you don’t like it. At least it has no microtransacrions or Battle Pass nonsense.

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      Bethesda games tend to have awful writing, released with an unacceptable amount of bugs, and not having micro transactions and a battle pass shouldn’t be praised, it must be the standard.

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          The only way it becomes standard is when it isn’t profitable. We can scream all we want, but people still buy that crap.

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          When will you learn the only thing that gets results is buying or not buying them? Fucks sake. It’s capitalism, if you buy shitty product more shitty product gets made.

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          It is the standard, idiot fucking gamergoblins dumping their wallets out saying “GIVE ME ADVANTAGES” are the assholes thats are trying to change the standard.

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        So it should be praised as it currently isn’t the standard in the gaming industry. But hey, let’s shit on it so we can totally tell the industry that this is the wrong path and micro transactions are the way to go!

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        1 year ago

        I expected it to be buggy. I have not yet encountered a bug in my first few hours.

        That being said, there’s lots im not liking about it so far.

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          I had Vasco become a part of the door to the cockpit. I couldn’t enter. I had to leave the ship and hit the specific ‘to cockpit’ button for a few hours because reloading didn’t save him from his torment. Only bug I’ve had but was weird lol.

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            Vasco quite frequently blocks the door everywhere for me, but at least I have been able to push my way through so far. He’s like my Golden Retriever in that respect so I am used to it from real life.

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              The big super-mutant companion from Fallout 3 did the same.

              It’s nice to know Bethesda are keeping all the fan favourite bugs alive and well.

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              Real sad that Vasco isnt a full companion. Had so much potential there, instead, all he is is a glorified tutorial escort for the start of the game, and graduates to annoying barricade for the rest of it.

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      I imagine a lot of people bought it, enjoyed it for a few minutes too long to refund, and are now stuck with 60 bucks down the shitter

      Makes you wonder why game demos aren’t a thing anymore

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        Well steam is really pushing devs to use demos again, given it’s mostly indie at this moment but slowly more and more demos start showing up, which is nice. One can hope AAA will do this to but I highly doubt they will

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        There are so many ways to inform yourself beforhand. You can also try it out on Gamepass. If you buy an 70 bucks game blindly its kinda your own fault.

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          Ah yes, because it’s the customer’s fault that Bethesda released a barebones game again.

          Listen. The game pass isn’t a replacement for demos. It still costs money, so for people who can only buy a limited number of games per year, that’s a no-go. It’s one of the more expensive subscription services as well. The point of demos is to be a free but limited experience of the game so people can decide whether the game is worth throwing money at without getting a subscription for hundreds of games they don’t care about or already own. Nothing against the game pass mind you, it’s great for lots of people, but it ain’t a demo.

          Besides, this isn’t just about Starfield. There seem to be more games coming out unfinished than otherwise, and both that trend and the absence of demos seem to have come with SaaS games becoming the norm. Remember when no man’s sky came out? Or cyberpunk 2077? Or fallout 76? Beinging back demos won’t completely prevent cases like that, but it sure would help

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            You say more games are coming out unfinished and then you buy a 70 bucks game on release from Bethesda without informing yourself beforehand? Yes this is your own mistake.

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              There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.

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              most people playing the game now probably got it free with their GPU/CPU purchase. You know.

              Just so you know.

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              I swear lemmy users are worse than redditors. Y’all are embarrassing the fucking fediverse you demented parrots. I’m honestly considering going back to the terrible reddit app, at least people there know how to read.

              I pirate games. It’s the only way to inform yourself, but it’s widely illegal. Games reviewers are hesitant to publish critical reviews, because that means risking not getting review copies. Community reviews are constantly review bombed for any controversial game, to the point where you can’t look up whether bg3 is good without having to scroll through a deluge of rants about how they’re shoving gay propaganda down people’s throats or whatever.

              Starfield got 88 on metacritic. It really does not deserve those numbers. But major bethesda releases are major news, so as a reviewer you do need to appease them. But as a customer, how are you supposed to inform yourself when Bethesda has every major outlet by the balls? I shouldn’t need to care, because as i said, i pirate before i buy, but many people just can’t safely do that. If game publishers would just release goddamn demos, they would provide an actual way for customers to inform themselves early on (when sales are the most important), and hell, maybe people would pirate less shit too. But that would mean having to release games that at least work, so of course the industry don’t want that. And corporate rimmers like you don’t help the situation

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            Starfield doesn’t feel unfinished or barebones at all to me. There’s a ton of great quest content, the art is top notch, and I haven’t seen a single bug in 30 hours.

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      I don’t understand why it’s so popular NOT to shit on them. Remember when Andromeda came out with many of the same issues, and people fucking REAMED it (rightly)? Now Bethesda is finally getting SOME criticism for their shitty business and game development practices and we have lots of people out here suckling at their teat defending them for some reason. “Leave them alone, it’s just a Bethesda game, why do people love to hate them, wahhhh.”

      As if Bethesda isn’t one of the most beloved companies of all time, and most everyone started from a place of WANTING to love this game. But they’ve been making shitty decisions for years, hiding behind the nostalgia of their past titles, and they are overdue some criticism. It doesn’t mean everyone hates them.

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        I dont know why pepole shited so much on Andromeda.it was fairly ok title and i personaly was looking forward to next part( which sadly probably wont happen ). Certainly gameplay fitted andromeda more than inquisition. Alghtough from what i have seen i definietly wouldnt be so amazed as some journalist seem to be but Its a ok title. Not a BG3 for certain. Alghtough i admittedly never really liked bethesda style games.i even prefered dragon age 2 rather than skyrim. Bethesda games are too diluted for my tastes.

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        Remember when Andromeda came out with many of the same issues, and people fucking REEMED it

        No, enlighten me, because I fucking hated Andromeda.