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    19 hours ago

    These aren’t just commercials with “white representation,” they are promoting eugenics. Seriously, go watch them. It’s not even subtle.

    Edit: getting downvoted on Lemmy for rightly pointing out that these ads are evoking eugenicist ideas is not what I expected. I thought Lemmy was more tuned in than this. Having white actors bragging about their superior genes goes beyond just being “white representation” and is instead a white supremacist and eugenicist dogwhistle. You guys really think that’s a reach? Have you just not seen the full ads and are only reacting to this image?

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      Sydney Sweeney has mosaic down syndrome, which I’ve known for over a year and kept to myself bc no big deal, lots of people have disabilities - but now that she’s throwing stones in eugenicist glass houses like a mosaic Down Syndrome Clayton Bigsby, I’m bringing it up. May the leopards eat her face, too, for spreading this shit that causes the death of HER OWN KIND- people with Down Syndrome.

      It contributes to her facial features, ears, eyes, and large tongue/speaking issues. She even has the cleft in her tongue and the toe separation. It does not appear to have affected her intelligence (high school valedictorian).

      Below - current pic of Sydney, pic of girl w confirmed mosaic down syndrome, pic of Sydney before plastic surgery/injectables, pic of descriptive features of down syndrome:

      She looks more like that stranger than her own literal family.

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        I don’t know if she has the condition you are talking about or not, but I do know that some of the features that result from down syndrome makes a person appear more “child like”. Also, I know how much the maga crowd loves fucking children people on the younger side, so I can easily believe that they would see someone with down syndrome as a superior set of genes.

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        Man, I wish I had mosaic down syndrome…

        Or at least big boobs…

        EDIT: Wait, did I say that out loud?

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        but now that she’s throwing stones in eugenicist glass houses

        I’m sorry, she’s doing what? And how?

        I’m so confused by this whole thing. She’s in a jeans ad - what’s the big deal? (I’m not from the US so I might be missing some important context)

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          Is English not your first language? The phrase “she has great jeans” is a double entendre for “good genes”, which feels like a white supremacy dog whistle. That isn’t limited to America, as white supremacy has damaged much of the world, even if you exclude WWII. Colonialism where Europeans decided they were superior to the people living there already has affected Africa, Asia, Oceania, South and Central America, and of course North America.

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            21 hours ago

            which feels like a white supremacy dog whistle

            Because there’s a white person on the screen?

            Out of curiosity: would you consider the ad a “black supremacy dog whistle” if the ad had a black girl instead?

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              21 hours ago

              Yes, if it said that personality came from genes, then said that said black girl had “great jeans.'”

              Do you think black supremacy doesn’t exist? Black Israelism and 5% Nation are both explicitly black supremacists imo, and I in no way consider them to be doing my skin color favors. I will criticize them the same way I criticize British Israelism. As well as other dog whistles or other colorism.

              I’m also highly critical of black people who hate on lighter colored black people, and have family who has suffered from it.

              Did you think that was a gotcha? That people critical of racism aren’t critical of racists of similar color to them?

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                21 hours ago

                I think people might be overreacting a bit.

                Sure, the wording was horrible, but dudes online are basically saying the actress is a Nazi. That’s on the same level as people harassing actors for a bad film script to me.

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                  “People are overreacting” was a common response to the rise of Trump, the increase in first amendment violations by religion, police brutality, and yes, even the Nazis. We need to react to the shift that are happening to make sure they stop. If they seem like an overreaction to you, it’s because you aren’t the one in danger,and you don’t care about those of us who are. You even admitted you weren’t in the US, and said you were confused.

                  I explained the context, and now you, someone who doesn’t have experience of growing up in American racism, are judging the reaction?

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          I’m not going to explain much. WW2 happened forever ago, if you refuse to understand the context of a white girl with blue eyes saying she has great genes, whose dad is a Trumper from racist Spokane, doing an ad for a CEO who is a Trumper and whose son is doing a real estate deal for Trump, who is a blatant white supremacist that had Hitler’s speeches on his bedside table and leading the blatantly racist MAGA movement… With Trump and JD Vance both coming to defend her, more than JD ever did for the harassment his own wife faced… That’s on you.

          The ad could’ve had more than one actress and said, “We have great genes/jeans.” It could have celebrated diversity. It didn’t, because their CEO is a white supremacist who teamed up with a white supremacist to make a white supremacist ad.

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            That’s a lot of completely unnecessary words, mate. Take a couple of breaths, calm down, not everybody who doesn’t immediately pat you on the back is out to get you.

            The version of the ad I saw did not have the “genes are passed down” bit.

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                19 hours ago

                Quote the bit you consider as me defending fascists or apologise.

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                  19 hours ago

                  Literally nearly every reply you’ve made itt. I won’t quote your whole body of work, go look through your own account.

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                    Yeah, that’s what I thought. You’re a god damn lunatic who basically goes “if you’re not with us, you’re against us”. I said “some people overreacted by calling Sweeney a Nazi”, and to you that means I’m defending fascists.

                    Fundamentalism of any kind is a cancer, mate.

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          21 hours ago

          From what I’ve gathered. She’s white, blonde, and blue-eyed. The ad says, she has good “jeans” which, without the text, could be interpreted as “genes”.

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            20 hours ago

            No, she literally goes on a lecture about how genes are passed down from parent to offspring, it is explicitly about genes.

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            Seriously, watch the ad we’re talking about before making a fool of yourself.