Different socialist systems have had different levels of development, policies, and social wealth, so there’s no one comparison to a presumably western country. For starters, western countries have inflated social wealthy due to imperialism, which is not a benefit for socialist countries. Countries like the USSR had different systems from modern Cuba, the PRC, etc, but all have different houses, and different wages depending on jobs worked.
I don’t have anything in-depth on hand, but surely you can see that eliminating usury from housing makes housing more affordable without needing to compromise on quality.
This kind of touches on a different aspect of it all, but would you not be concerned with any level of government overreach in any of these places? I’m sure to some degree it’s propaganda/media biases we experience in the states, but the level of freedom your average citizen has certainly varies from one place to the next, North Korea obviously being one of the most extreme, while places like China seem to have some aspects that reflect a little more closely to what we know in the US… Where’s the happy medium?
Not sure if that’s clear, I guess what I might be getting at is, for example, the bill of rights in the US… We have some rights that most of these communist societies lack, no? Is it just a matter of being a bit of a trade-off? Is the grass really greener in China?
All that said, it’s not too far beyond my understanding that US citizens don’t truly have the level of freedom we’re told/sold, but still, there are some things that do make this country nice to live in.
(I don’t mean to come off as difficult here, I’m actually enjoying the discussion)
Capitalist countries often have less freedom overall. When your needs are taken care of, and you have more control over how the economy is run, the average person has more freedom. There’s nothing about capitalism that improves freedom for the average person, it’s all used to justify maintaining imperialism and capitalist exploitation.
Different socialist systems have had different levels of development, policies, and social wealth, so there’s no one comparison to a presumably western country. For starters, western countries have inflated social wealthy due to imperialism, which is not a benefit for socialist countries. Countries like the USSR had different systems from modern Cuba, the PRC, etc, but all have different houses, and different wages depending on jobs worked.
I don’t have anything in-depth on hand, but surely you can see that eliminating usury from housing makes housing more affordable without needing to compromise on quality.
This kind of touches on a different aspect of it all, but would you not be concerned with any level of government overreach in any of these places? I’m sure to some degree it’s propaganda/media biases we experience in the states, but the level of freedom your average citizen has certainly varies from one place to the next, North Korea obviously being one of the most extreme, while places like China seem to have some aspects that reflect a little more closely to what we know in the US… Where’s the happy medium?
Not sure if that’s clear, I guess what I might be getting at is, for example, the bill of rights in the US… We have some rights that most of these communist societies lack, no? Is it just a matter of being a bit of a trade-off? Is the grass really greener in China?
All that said, it’s not too far beyond my understanding that US citizens don’t truly have the level of freedom we’re told/sold, but still, there are some things that do make this country nice to live in.
(I don’t mean to come off as difficult here, I’m actually enjoying the discussion)
Capitalist countries often have less freedom overall. When your needs are taken care of, and you have more control over how the economy is run, the average person has more freedom. There’s nothing about capitalism that improves freedom for the average person, it’s all used to justify maintaining imperialism and capitalist exploitation.