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    It would still be someone else paying you to keep your properties value up while receiving nothing of value for their money.

    Is not living on the street not really something of value? I feel that is something of value, isn’t it?

    I dunno, I don’t have any interest in becoming a landlord but I commonly see people considering them as the most evil people in the world no matter what and it does confuse me a little bit. People always say landlords are always evil, but there are tenants who are weeks or months late on their rent, they destroy the place, etc, it doesn’t seem like such a dream job to me.

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      Is not living on the street not really something of value? I feel that is something of value, isn’t it?

      Just compare it to buying property where you continously pay off your credit. You get something in return, ownership of a property. Just because you are too poor to afford that, thus being forced ot pay rent, you receive significantly less for the money you spend on housing. Also, and this might be a weird stance for americans, I don’t think anyone should be facing the choice of being able to pay rent and ending homeless on the street.

      I dunno, I don’t have any interest in becoming a landlord but I commonly see people considering them as the most evil people in the world no matter what and it does confuse me a little bit.

      They commonly siphon off income from workers to keep their properties value up. This is just pararsitic behaviour.

      People always say landlords are always evil, but there are tenants who are weeks or months late on their rent, they destroy the place, etc, it doesn’t seem like such a dream job to me.

      So bad tenants are an excuse to be an evil parasite towards every tenant there is? Also, being a landlord isn’t just a job. It is making more money from existing property by exploiting the need of housing of those that are not able to afford a place themselves.

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        Just compare it to buying property where you continously pay off your credit. You get something in return, ownership of a property. Just because you are too poor to afford that, thus being forced ot pay rent, you receive significantly less for the money you spend on housing. Also, and this might be a weird stance for americans, I don’t think anyone should be facing the choice of being able to pay rent and ending homeless on the street.

        So you’re saying that poor people should just… not live anywhere and instead should live on the street? I’m not sure I get your point, because if that is your point, it’s not a very good one.

        They commonly siphon off income from workers to keep their properties value up. This is just pararsitic behaviour.

        Sure they’re all evil parasites, whatever you say, I don’t think a large corporation renting out multiple buildings jumping at the chance to raise rent and/or evict someone who is even slightly late on rent is the same as an older man renting out a spare room in his house ever since his oldest moved out?

        So bad tenants are an excuse to be an evil parasite towards every tenant there is? Also, being a landlord isn’t just a job. It is making more money from existing property by exploiting the need of housing of those that are not able to afford a place themselves.

        So bad tenants being excused from any culpability means that all landlords are automatically evil no matter what?

        It is making more money from existing property by exploiting the need of housing of those that are not able to afford a place themselves.

        It is providing a place to stay for people who can’t otherwise afford one…? Or should those people just live on the street?

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          So bad tenants being excused from any culpability means that all landlords are automatically evil no matter what?

          Noones talking about excusing bad tenants. Stop building strawmen.

          So you’re saying that poor people should just… not live anywhere and instead should live on the street? I’m not sure I get your point, because if that is your point, it’s not a very good one.

          Or should those people just live on the street?

          If you’d bothered to read my comment you’d have seen this:

          Also, and this might be a weird stance for americans, I don’t think anyone should be facing the choice of being able to pay rent and ending homeless on the street.

          Landlords, yes even the nice old man renting out his spare room, are making money simply because they already own property. Of course there is a spectrum between those and large corporations. But the underlying mechanism is still the same.

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            Noones talking about excusing bad tenants. Stop building strawmen.

            Well if there can be good tenants and bad tenants, surely there can be good landlords and bad landlords, or is that not possible, all of them are automatically evil?

            Landlords, yes even the nice old man renting out his spare room, are making money simply because they already own property. Of course there is a spectrum between those and large corporations. But the underlying mechanism is still the same.

            So by that logic, VPNs and Bitcoin should both be illegal because they can be used by criminals (even though they have legitimate uses too, like bypassing censorship in authoritarian states) because the underlying mechanism is the same

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              You are not great at logic and analogies, are you?

              Well if there can be good tenants and bad tenants, surely there can be good landlords and bad landlords, or is that not possible, all of them are automatically evil?

              All of them do earn money just by owning property. I’m not calling that evil or good or bad. It is what it is. And I’m sure many landlords are nice enough people. I am against it though.

              So by that logic, VPNs and Bitcoin should both be illegal because they can be used by criminals (even though they have legitimate uses too) because the underlying mechanism is the same

              I’m not even sure where to begin. Neither of those, VPN nor Bitcoin, allow you to earn money simply by owning property. Both of them can be used legally and illegally, but that has nothing to do with landlords which are always able to rent out their property completly legally but are still always being a parasite. I’m not saying renting should be banned because one kind of landlords are evil and the others aren’t. I’m saying the mechanism of profiting off of property while exploiting the need for housing puts all of them on a spectrum between siphoning off a little or siphoning off a lot of the workers income.