• bus_factor@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Wow, people actually want that? I hate it with a passion whenever I use OS X, and honestly thought they just kept it for historical reasons and that no one actually likes it that way. Clearly I was wrong based on the reactions here.

    I hate it because if you’re moving between two apps it adds a click or keystroke to select the app before you can select the menu, and if the app is not at the top of the screen you also have to move the mouse farther.

    People who love this, what is the benefit? Is it just to save a few vertical pixels if you have two apps above each other, or is there more to it?

    • krake@lemmy.kde.social
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      The “menu at the top of the screen” is just one possible visualization.

      Essentially an application that supports this can “export” its menu so that it can be consumed by another process.

      In the case of the “global menu” this is Plasma (applet).

      However, the data can also be consumed for example by a window decoration plugin, like this one https://discuss.kde.org/t/decoration-with-locally-integrated-menu/29492

      There are likely many more possibilities. Maybe a Kwin effect that shows the menu as a circle of options around the mouse cursor’s current position.

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        Okay, that’s making more sense. I can see people wanting to stick the menu in the title bar or something like that.

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      For Firefox I want that because FF’s menu is not visible by default and imo FF looks weird with menu enabled because its titlebar becomes thick. Global menu looks natural.

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        But even then, is there any benefit? For a maximized window, the menu will be in that general area anyway.

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          No, not really. The original idea was that you could just push the mouse up and get to the menu as it would be at the edge of the screen. It’s fine if you have a single program.
          Current window managers, especially the Unix ones are specifically designed to let you juggle with dozens of windows. And the screen resolutions we now have make this more comfortable. Maximising every window like people did on a Mac+ no longer makes any sense. So the Apple style of interface makes no sense either.

          I think it’s like the people who are trying to turn Linux into Windows, a fear of the unfamiliar.

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      The difference with KDE’s panel is it supports moving window controls and title, ie. fully get rid of a maximized window’s titlebar.

      Screenshot

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    3 days ago

    For those with vision impairments the options you need to set to true in about:config are:

    widget.gtk.global-menu.enabled

    widget.gtk.global-menu.wayland.enabled

    Presumably you would only need the second option if you are using Wayland. I tried it (am using Plasma on Fedora 42) and it worked but I’m not interested in it so I disabled it after I made sure all the menus gave a drop down. YMMV.

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    I honestly had given up hope this would ever happen. For global menu enjoyers, this is the holy grail of programs that just refused to play nice.

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      On MacOS and some desktop environments like Unity and optionally in Plasma, there’s a UX design pattern called the “Global Menu”. At the top of the screen, as part of the desktop’s shell, there’s buttons labelled File, Edit, View, etc for you to interact with.

      Firefox is seemingly (I haven’t tested it myself, not using Plasma) enabled this functionality under Linux. Previously it required a patch to work. But this functionality has always existed on the MacOS version.

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    I tested it in Librewolf and Firefox and it works great! This doesn’t seem to work in Floorp, though that may be because I am using the community maintained chaotic-aur package.

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    It is about time. I use Waterfox because of their global menu support. Lets hope they bring this to Thunderbird next.