I logged into Kbin today to see 18 notifications where the same guy banned me from all of their magazines for downvoting them.

I was only subscribed to 1 of those magazines, but it’s still annoying to wake up to 18 ban messages from someone who got easily angered from a downvote.

(Side note: IMO, this is why being able to see downvotes is bad. Even if anyone could see them by spinning up their own instance, that’s a lot of work compared to pressing 2 buttons.)

I’ve blocked the guy, but is there anything that can be done to stop this from proliferating across the site?

  • fiat_lux@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    I actually disagree with this being an example of why seeing downvotes is bad. I also think it’s good we can see which mod is doing the banning; I’ve noticed the standard lemmy moderation log doesn’t show that. This kind of transparency allows for poor behaviour to be discovered more quickly and remedied with less speculation about who did what.

    Edit: For example, I can also see this person has gone through your entire comment history and downvoted every comment. I didn’t see any troll-like comments from you though. I hope this person is doing OK mentally, but this isn’t OK community leader behaviour on their part.

    Edit 2: I can also see that OP has downvoted every single one of the other person’s comments too. On the same day as the other person did to OP. Uh… I don’t know what conversation spawned this entire exchange, but I dont think that downvoting all someone’s comments outside of their contexts is productive.

    Edit 3: And for the couple of other accounts who are going through the post histories of the people involved and downvoting because of this thread? Also not helpful behaviour. Be better.

    This is why we can’t have nice things.

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      I avoided some of the finer details because the downvoting isn’t the point - the bans are. Especially from so many magazines.

      But - to give the full story:

      I have a Tampermonkey extension which hides posts after an upvote/downvote. Because of this, I’m voting on basically everything in my subscribed feed.

      I downvoted something of his - I don’t even remember what, exactly. I made some comments and noticed when checking replies later that I had been downvoted on a bunch of them.

      Curious, I checked to see where the downvotes were coming from - all of them were this guy. I checked their profile and saw that I had already downvoted one of their posts, hence my guess as to why he was mad.

      Usually I’d let these things pass, but I found it a bit childish and I was feeling petty, so I did it back to them. You can judge me if you like; I’m not exactly proud of stooping to that level but I was already in a sour mood that day.

      I haven’t been on Kbin for a couple days, but I checked back this afternoon and saw 18 messages, all of which said “you have been banned.” Evidently they got angry and decided they weren’t going to let me participate in any of their communities.

      I got pissed at this and banned him back - which is, again, perhaps childish on my part. At the same time, I’ve been a mod for a long time across multiple platforms, and I have a low tolerance for BS at this point. I’ve seen folks like this start spamming communities in retaliation to perceived slights - something like that happened on the first forum I ever ran, way back before Reddit even existed - and frankly this guy has already proven to be acting in bad faith.


      One reason why I didn’t delve into details is because this is going to devolve into petty he said/she said arguments, which frankly isn’t the point.

      The point is that this guy got pissed off at something I did and decided I wasn’t able to participate in any of their communities anymore. Like I said, I was only subscribed to one of these communities anyway - so it didn’t really affect me - but I worry what would happen if these weren’t small communities. What happens if a powermod that runs multiple big magazines decides to ban people for perceived slights?

      I know this was a issue on Reddit (awkwardtheturtle), and I’d hate for it to be an issue here, too.

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      This is exactly why transparency is great. These people are ridiculous and lose credibility. Keeping everything visible is the best defense against manipulation

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      Agreed, if somebody is spam downvoting comments (Which is honestly quite the pathetic act), then people should be able to see that, and block/report them

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        1 year ago

        Unfortunately, blocking doesn’t actually do anything aside from stopping up from seeing their comments. Someone I blocked is still able to see, reply to, and downvote my posts. It’s frustrating, to say the least.

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          Additionally - and I don’t know if this has been fixed - if you’re a mod and you block someone, you also don’t see posts they make on your magazines.

          So they can easily go in and make spam posts and you - as a mod - would never see it.