• SomeLemmyUser@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Do you think China is a Marxist utopia? Because if not I don’t know why you are so butthurt by my comment, if yes my point stands.

    Not sure what you are trying to proof here, to me it seems like you have two simple categories in your head: “pro me” and “anti me” and you assume everyone in the same category must be the same. I remotely mention that I don’t think China is heaven on earth and you start to talk about how I must be mentally derailed or something.

    I think calling the us democratic is far fetched, butcallingg China democratic is not very close to the truth either.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      Nah I don’t think China is an utopia. I just think it’s far better than what US offers. If you can’t understand that one thing can be better than the other without either being some sort of an utopia, what else is there to say.

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        If you cant understand that

        “People who think China is a communist utopia are idiots”

        And

        “There is NO good aspekt of China AT ALL”

        Are two different sentences and you don’t need to start calling me mentally derailed or make site long fanboy essays about China, what else there is to say?

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            1 year ago

            This you?

            It’s such an incredible example of cognitive dissonance. People able to recognize that their own system doesn’t live up to the ideal they have in their heads, but still treat it as a valid interpretation of the idea, but when it comes to a system they dislike then the same logic doesn’t apply all of a sudden.

            As is said, it seems like you are working with only two categories in your head: “pro China” and “pro us”

            That one can criticise one of them without liking the other doesn’t seem to fit in your head

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              Yeah that’s me, and being able to recognize that one system is a better option than the other has nothing to do with the straw man you keep making. It seems like you’re having a really hard time wrapping your head around the concept that one thing can be preferable to another without either being perfect.

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                OK, so you recognise what you said, still you cant find the mistake and keep thinking you are making a point.

                I give up, you cant be reasoned with…

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                  Yeah, please give up on pretending you were trying to reason. What you were doing was making a transparent straw man and ignoring what I told you. That’s just lazy trolling.