Multiple southern states and a few midwestern states are at “extreme threat” levels of “wet bulb temperature”.

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    An earlier version of this article was published in June 2021.

    I’m not sure if I should be alarmed that this is happening frequently enough to recycle older articles or comforted that we’ve already dealt with this trouble once before.

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      they updated it on july 4th 2023. i think when they originally wrote the article, they were explaining what wet bulb temperature meant. Now they’re pointing out the frequency of reaching that threshold…which really sucks…so alarmed for sure.

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    This article doesn’t actually mention the values of the temperatures (probably to cover relieve themselves of the responsibility of those details) so I’ll go to their first link, the theHill.com one. They don’t directly give a value in their text either…

    Reading that, the exact same thing is happening as that twitter screenshot thread with the map of the southern US color coded for temperatures.

    Basically, wet bulb globe temperature is being conflated with wet bulb temperature. Globe is in the sun, the other is not. The thehill.com source uses a chart and description for globe, doesn’t mention the word globe anywhere, then says you can’t survive more than 35C with a link to a study. That 35C/88F is the limit for a wet bulb temperature, not wet bulb globe temperature. Obviously measuring something in the sun is going to give a higher number than in the shade. You can’t say “it’s this temperature” referencing wet bulb globe and also say “you couldn’t survive that temperature” using the “survivability” limit of wet bulb without any sort of qualification/clarification as to the distinction. Obviously it’s hotter in the sun. If that same temperature is reached in the shade it’s that much hotter in the sun.

    Sure, we’re all facing extreme climate apocalypse, but this is annoying that the terms are being used as the same thing, and I’d argue detrimental to the cause. When these things are incorrect, it’s just more ammunition for deniers and doubters to point at to justify their continued intentional ignorance.

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    When I work at military facilities in the US, they use wet bulb globe temperature (WBGT) which adds the heating effect of direct sunlight.

    We use it to prevent heat stroke. DoD has a system of colored flags that index to the WBGT. Red and black flags indicate that folks working outside need to take breaks at some increased frequency.

    WBGT

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    If we were in the right timeline we would have fixed our dependance to fossil energy a long ass time ago.

    Instead we’ve got a bunch of people who still believe vaccines causes autism because the internet told them that.

    When did we fail going forward? As humanity, I mean.

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      It’s really so sad and frustrating for those under the age of 45. Millennials were raised during a time of prosperity and possibilities, only to find out it was all a sham by the selfish, stupid and mostly older generations. Now Millennials, Gen Z and Gen A will reap the outcomes of all that while those who caused it will die off before things get even worse. I harbor no resent towards Gen X, but their refusal to fight the tide certainly didn’t help.

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        I harbor no resent towards Gen X, but their refusal to fight the tide certainly didn’t help.

        Not all of us were apathetic; there were many who tried to fight for what was considered really progressive ideas at the time, like fighting for equal rights and against climate change, but there weren’t enough of us. We’re a smaller generation anyway, didn’t have a good way to make our voices heard since the internet was still in its infancy, and were turned into a punchline by the media. And everybody believed it. Slacker, freeloader, tree-hugger, JFC it’s no wonder why nobody took us seriously. I mean, frick, in the 90s everyone got their news from four network channels and a few cable channels on tv, so America believed the hype and largely wrote us off.

        We tried, man. We did the absolute best we could with a shitty situation, and it stings to think about how we weren’t able to accomplish more in our youth. Please don’t write us off as a useless apathetic generation, we’ve already been through that before. Besides, you’re probably thinking of our parents, the Boomer generation (born 1945-1965). They aren’t entirely to blame for the country’s problems, but they held (still do in many ways) most of the power and chose to throw their support behind rich wealthy conservative assholes, and we’re still feeling the affects of their decisions. Again, they don’t deserve all the blame, but the sheer amount of Boomer shit contributions to society dwarfs what the worst of Gen X ever did.

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      Just don’t believe this is anything new. Back in time, people used to seriously believe in faeries, trolls, deamons, angels and other supernatural phenomena.

      That’s how you could lead people to carry holy wars and consider serfdom and slavery as natural order of things.

      Back in the 80’s, I remember a report from an ethnologist going to Nepal and meeting people who seriously believed that Russians had goat feet.

      If anything, the internet has revealed the credulity of the general population, and provides means to fight and contain superstitions of various kinds.

      I’m an optimist.