• Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Agreed. We have allowed our democratic system to be quietly stolen from us without even really noticing. I think we either need to properly reclaim it or to start new systems away from it. The Fediverse is a really good example of the latter.

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      3 months ago

      The fediverse exists in the web, while they exist in the reality and command police, people in airports and train stations, military, internet service providers, etc.

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        3 months ago

        That’s why we should follow the example of the French and do a Revolution every now and then!

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          3 months ago

          Revolutions are destructive and have bad potential. But a certain degree of unchecked chaos is useful.

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        2 months ago

        I would argue that the web is part of reality - it’s our main method of communication. It might be small but I think it’s a good example of successful self-organisation away from government/business/finance.

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          2 months ago

          It might be small but I think it’s a good example of successful self-organisation away from government/business/finance.

          It’s definitely not small, and backbones and intercontinental cables and such are not self-organization.

          Late 90-s and early 00-s web, however were such an example. But they still relied on benevolence of ICQ and AIM owners, OS vendors, organizations making standards.