• x4740N@lemm.ee
    3·
    3 months ago

    I read “cooka” as “cock” for a second and had to do a double take

    • Gregor@gregtech.euOP
      394·
      3 months ago

      Mamma mia, I cooka da meatball and pizza di Italiano grande.

      Let me shitpost in peace plz

      • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        429·
        3 months ago

        You can argue you have a right to post what you want.

        You can’t argue however that I don’t have the same right.

        You post prejudiced garbage, I’m gonna call it out. I’m sure it’s “just a joak”, but if there’s one thing we’ve learned in the past decade or so, it’s that everything is ironic until it suddenly is not.

        • Tyfud@lemmy.world
          182·
          3 months ago

          You understand that prejudice has a specific malicious intent behind it, correct? That it’s prejudiced “with intent” for something nefarious that’s being hidden behind the veil of racist remarks.

          Go ahead and tell us which one of those racist behaviors is on display here.

          If Italian people were offended by this, or this limited their upward travel potential in the professional world, or was a way to hide derogatory behavior that people found undesirable by “dog whistling”, then it would qualify.

          Unless you can point that out in this case, I think your sense of social justice is misplaced for what is just normal, tame, cultural fun poking.

          Here, we’ll include Americans in the meme:

          Amer-E-cans: The police were called to handle a domestic disturbance at a nearby home. There were no survivors.

          • sudneo@lemm.ee
            92·
            3 months ago

            Now, as an Italian I can’t really say that I am offended by this. I don’t care and I frequent the international community for long enough that I got used to the “mamma mia”, hand gestures, “mi scuzi” etc., whatever.

            That said:

            or was a way to hide derogatory behavior

            If you don’t consider stereotyping people as uneducated half-wits who can’t speak a second language and express themselves in super-mario sentences derogatory in itself, I guess you have a very high bar.

            Also you kinda made up this definition of prejudice, which simply means having opinions about something in advance.

            an unfair and unreasonable opinion or feeling, especially when formed without enough thought or knowledge

            Believe it or not, the type of stereotype here represented is quite widespread. Ask any Italian abroad how often they encounter the stuff I mentioned above.

            Here, we’ll include Americans in the meme:

            The example you bring is then completely off the mark. It’s one thing making fun of Italian “society” as - say - unorganized, or something else. It’s another thing stereotyping individuals and their individual characteristics.

            All in all I have to say that it’s quite surprising to see this kind of behavior in the Fediverse, where such behavior would be absolutely not tolerated if it were about some other category. Again, I am fairly neutral and I take the joke for what it is, but the hypocrisy in this thread is really funny.

            • Tyfud@lemmy.world
              8·
              3 months ago

              You raise some fair criticisms of my response and have given me some things to think about and consider.

              And to update the American example then:

              I’ll take a sixth helping of meatballs please.

          • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            211·
            3 months ago

            If Italian people were offended by this

            “If” an Italian was, and told you, you’d explain to him he isn’t really offended, like you’re doing now. Because that’s what you are doing after an Italian told you to knock this shit off.

      • Tyfud@lemmy.world
        91·
        3 months ago

        Italy walks the talk with its own stereotypes. And they take that quite seriously.

          • sudneo@lemm.ee
            11·
            3 months ago

            So you know that this is a stereotype hopefully, and that people don’t actually talk like super mario, right?

                • sudneo@lemm.ee
                  4·
                  3 months ago

                  I think it simply comes from the bad english of italian people who immigrated to the US. Plenty of them were from South, but the stereotypical speech is simply a consequence of Italians pronouncing words as they are written (given Italian works like that). Neapolitan dialect is actually very contracted, so the opposite of elongated vocals as the stereotype goes.

              • sudneo@lemm.ee
                31·
                3 months ago

                Italian pub…? Anyway, I am Italian, I know what people sound like. Thanks for the tip though