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These words mean that the topic under discussion in that screenshot is NOT the original defederation, but rather whether AN (&dbzer0) should be re-federated, which ended up happening.

No, actually, it wasn’t. The fact that you are trying to claim that you know the context of this conversation that you were not part of is staggering. You do not get to gaslight me, the person who was actually there, on what happened. Nor do you get to re-write the actuality of what occured. That is not what the discussion was actually referring to. It was, indeed, referring to what I originally claimed as I was the one who was there to see it.

“in the end this is however not a decision i will be doing alone, nor was the defederation a decision that wasn’t supported by others, despite their misrepresentation of this being me taking total power to fuck over others

My claim was that Kaplan did not talk to the admins of anarchist.nexus about this defederation and actually escalate this in an adult and mature way. That does nothing to claim otherwise. It was, indeed, a total power move to fuck over others. No one from any other instance was considered. No one was spoken to until after the defederation occured. How do I know? Because I was in the conversation.

I was discussing whether the defederation had happened by MrKaplan entirely alone, vs. him consulting others, and I had indicated the word “evidence” meaning that the decision was made without consulting others.

And you were the one who moved the goalpost there in the first place because my point was that anarchist.nexus was not considered all despite there being other admins on that instance. They were not talked to until after the defederation. See above for proof.

Though that is precisely what you are accusing MrKaplan of - acting on emotion rather than logic?

Correct.

we can agree on that much, and the rest will have to wait until another day, as the decision to re-federate was already made. You’ve won: enjoy it:-D.

I did not ‘win’. No one ‘won’. Kaplan did nothing. They backed down off of defederation temporarily but after they made a catastrophic error while still claiming that they are considering defederation.

Its kind of shocking to me that you start all of this off by saying I should do more research and then try to tell me what happened in my own conversations and not point out the fact that defederation is still on the table. I’m done having this conversation with you.

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Luminous was an admin at the time. Then, Luminous stepped down from being an admin. Then, as you mentioned, LW re-federated AN once more.

And is still considering defederating with it again as the post states. You do not get to claim full refederation as that is not the situation we are in. You are downplaying the situation.

If Luminous had merely been a mod, this could have been handled by blocking, but since they were an admin - at the time - it could only be handled by defederation.

No. It could have been handled by speaking with the admins of the other instance and saying “This is a problem.” Speech is always an option, especially before taking a nuclear one.

I suppose you are calling MrKaplan a liar

Correct.

It seems his word against yours

No, I literally just presented it in the original comment.

With no evidence currently presented either way

I literally presented evidence in the original comment. A screenshot with a message from Mr. Kaplan stating that they had no evidence for what was going on, only an odd feeling. Here is the screenshot again with the relevant information highlighted.

What is your goal here on mispresenting reality so heavily?

Unless @[email protected] is willing to put his foot down? Nothing. And I doubt he is.

Luminous acted as a user/moderator. Kaplan acted as an admin.

You are not taking any of this into account. I’m not wasting my time with this because, I too, elborated on this elsewhere.

I think you should probably refresh the page and look at my comment again because it’s full of screenshots that are listing that, yes, I do know what I’m talking about and that what Kaplan did is indeed based off of a feeling. Including using a screenshot from Kaplan themselves.

Luminous did not start this witch hunt because Luminous acted as a moderator and not as an admin. Kaplan was the one who leapfrogged over speaking to any other admin and instantly went straight to defederation. Kaplan never told anyone else. Kaplan did not bring this up as problematic. Kaplan just instantly defederated. Something that, as this thread has been updated to show, they went ahead and undone because there was no justification for continue to defederate when the admin in question is gone.

The situation is, infact, more dramatic than I original made it out to be. I did plenty of research. You’re just sitting on a very old comment because the whole thing about me “not knowing what was going on” was edited out fucking hours ago.

What’s really funny is the realization that I had. I keep forgetting that Kaplan is using the name of a character from a TV show.

That character, a woman that uses the name Mr Kaplan for backstory reasons, ended up being written out (temporarily) after she went against the lead character (of which it aint me, I’m a random fuckin NPC in Season 1 Episode 2 in the background) and proceeded to not talk to him or anyone else and do what she thought was best. Unilaterally made a decision that managed to functionally destroy everything she was trying to protect, leaving her to desperately try and clean up the mess.

Makes you think. Just hoping that this time Mr. Kaplan doesn’t fake Liz’s death.

I literally do not understand the point of that edit at fucking all.

I messaged Kaplan privately and Kaplan is seeing nothing but red. I updated my original comment to show some context. But Kaplan just went ham and instantly defederated because of a perceived sleight and has been going on a rampage against everyone since. Meanwhile there are serious discussions happening behind the scenes for other major instances to defederate from lemmy.world in response.

Kaplan is threatening to nuke one instance and, in response, will manage to have lemmy.world effectively embargoed to death.

Oh yeah. I’d have dropkicked his ass out of the door a long time ago.

Odd. I was just outright offered adminship on lemmy.world more than once.

Then why don’t you take your own advice?

If you aren’t going to provide any references on the behavior of dbzer0 administration and the reason for considering defederation with them (For the actions of a user of another instance who is no longer a moderator) then just say so instead of beating around the bush.

No.

You are not being given an opportunity to change the moment, narrative, or this conversation.

The information was posted months ago. You read it all and made your decision. That conversation ended months ago when you made your decision. We are not talking about Jordan now, we’re talking about the fact that you personally are going on a petty vendetta and attacking two instances due to the behavior of a user that is no longer an admin.

But, again, it is really interesting how you’re more willing to talk about Jordan now than you are about your own indefensible behavior. You are acting on something that happened days ago with zero consideration of any update since. You are in the wrong. Pay attention to every user here who has had input, respond to them and stop picking and choosing responses that you think you’re going to be able to win. You will not.

And I played a part in that and will, forever, be apologetic for that.

When I left Startrek.website, I chose lemmy.world because I was friends with an admin of the instance at the time but I wasn’t really plugged into all that was going on on the fediverse. I’m also aware of the numbers that I helped drag into lemmy.world with the creation of [email protected]

It’s also why I created [email protected]. To try and undo some of the damage. I asked Picard and co to move over but they were unwilling due to a concern of fragmenting the community. I respect their decision and not giving them flak for it but I really wish that they had joined me over here. Lemmy.world is going far beyond the pale with this petty behavior.

Yep.

If the instigating reason has been removed from the situation, then why is this rollout contining?

It is quite interesting to me that the only thing you’re responding to here is something that you think is a gotcha.

Once again, Kap, I already did that work quite a while ago. You read it. You decided to do nothing about it. Need a reminder? Check your DMs on discord. We talked about this at fucking length. Your total lack of action on the situation was what led to me leaving lemmy.world, refusing to ever post on another community again at a top level, and have moved to another instance entirely.

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Kaplan cannot be removed from the admin team.

Every other major admin has stepped down in the past few months or taken massive steps back. Kaplan is effectively all that there is left. Thats why these actions were taken instantly and without any deliberation. Kaplan has no one to answer to anymore. @[email protected] just handed over total control of the instance. Whether or not Ruud wanted to remake reddit, he certainly has.

Fair. Gumby is actually flexible on positions.