• DaddleDew@lemmy.world
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      That was some seriously cringe slogan.

      But how was this ever enough to justify voting for the guy who has no morality, cheats and bullshits his way through everything, selects his entourage based on loyalty over competence, divides the country through purposefully polarizing statements and filed for bankruptcies 6 times, 5 of which were casinos? And that was what we knew before he was elected.

      That’s just showing how superficial a lot of the voter base really is.

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        No. It shows how bad a candidate she was. People love reform candidates for a reason: Washington is so dirty, and our interests are not corporate interests. Centrist Democrats inspire leftist voters to stay home or vote third party.

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          Anecdotally, the reason I went third party that year was because the big two were so bad in my eyes that I thought third party had enough of a chance to go up a few percentage points, possibly receiving a little more recognition in the future.

          Not win. But something that could lead to better elections in the future. I was wrong.

          I don’t regret my vote though, since I had found someone to vote for, rather than against.

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    I mean apparently America can’t tell Biden and Trump apart so… Yeah “easiest election in history”.

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    If we didn’t have the archaic Electoral College system, she would have won. She won the popular vote by millions.

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      Bernie would have won if the DNC wasn’t so heavily focused on it being her “turn”. And then it was Joes “turn” after that. Bernie was the only person Trump was afraid of.

      Not saying you’re wrong or anything. Just adding to it.

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        This wasn’t true about Biden. The establishment didn’t care who won that primary, as long as it wasn’t Bernie. I think Harris was their first choice, but they flipped to Biden when she tanked.

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          Biden absolutely believes he “earned” his time as president. He’s a life long politician that went through all the steps for it.

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            That may be, but he’s better at hiding it than Hillary. She seemed to always be making it clear that it was her turn. That message came across much more strongly than anything else.

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    Didn’t she say something like “can’t we just drone him” in reference to assange?

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      To be fair, Assange is an annoying cunt who I’d probably drone strike if I could. But I’m just trigger happy these days, so it’s a good thing I don’t have any sort of power.

      To sum things up, First, the US should never have gone after him. That was one of many, many wrongs committed by the US.

      But The enemy of your enemy is not your friend.

      Assange is a rapist. Got to keep that one in mind here. The cases themselves were dropped, but some of the women have said they would still press charges if it were an option. But statute of limitations is in effect.

      Another wrong he committed, he released full social security numbers as part of his leaks, multiple times.

      As part of not redacting sensitive info, he got multiple Iraqi and Afghani civilians killed, because their names were in the documents he released.

      And he was a shitty boss, and a shitty pet owner.

      Other things, Assange has been on Russia’s payroll for a while. Wikileaks has never once released anything that makes Putin look bad. They did not host the Panama Papers, and Assange called them an anti-Putin, CIA fabrication.

      Now, I’m not saying that the CIA wouldn’t do that. But I will say that I don’t think any three letter agency in the world is competent enough to do so without getting caught at it.

      And finally he gave us the Trump presidency.

      No, fuck that guy. Probably doesn’t deserve anything more than the prison time he served, but it did deserve prison, especially for the rapes.

      If you want actual responsible journalism and document leaks, check out these guys.

      https://ddosecrets.com/wiki/Distributed_Denial_of_Secrets

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    How much do the Democrats need to mess up before they can be considered to be working with the Republicans instead of against them?

    Clinton was one whoopsie in a chain of mistakes that has led us here.

    Edit: I am getting a significant amount of replies saying that I’m being mean to Hillary. To be clear, I’m not dogging on her. She did her best. I’m upset at the Democratic party for putting her against Trump. She lacks charisma, it’s not her fault.

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      Casual victim blaming Hilary, ignoring the massive propaganda campaign against her, sponsored by a foreign government.

      How very American of you.

      Trump and the Russians are to blame, not Hillary.

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    She wasn’t right about a lot of things, specially relating to the Middle East. Misguided at best, malicious at worst when it comes to the Middle East.