• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    Huh?

    A big reason trump got so many votes is he lied about draining the swamp and his voters are dumb enough to believe him.

    They can be dumb and believe someone who means it when they say it.

    Like, you’re making a valid point, then reaching the literal opposite conclusion that logic should take us too

    We can’t afford to be that shortsighted, think stuff thru.

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      3 hours ago

      hmmm Trump is most deeply unpopular for doing the things he said he’d do… forced deportations, ICE, etc

      The entire Project 2025 was out and morons still voted the pedo in…

      I’m sorry but there may be smart Americans out there but, and a population, Americans are basically a blob of idiotic sociopaths

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        3 hours ago

        I’m sorry but there may be smart Americans out there but, and a population, Americans are basically a blob of idiotic sociopaths

        You’re missing the point…

        Even with the dumbest audience possible, if two people are trying to convince the audience a charismatic liar can win if their opponent is also lying or has no charisma.

        But no matter how charismatic or how good of a liar. It’s really fucking hard to beat someone with average charisma who doesn’t need to lie about wanting to help people

        Look at Mamdani, I love the guy.

        But people act like he’s dripping charisma just because he’s compared to Eric Adams.

        He’s not that charismatic, watch his interviews with Mero, he’s a nerd from the Bronx.

        It’s just an honest person that wants to help doesn’t need a lot of charisma, cuz they’re not selling lies

        The day Mamdani won the primary, the current chair of the DNC came out saying all this too, and saying that’s what we need as a dem.presidential candidate in 2028.

        https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/dnc-chair-on-the-path-to-winning-back-voters-and-lessons-democrats-can-learn-from-mamdani

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          3 hours ago

          hmmm I am still skeptical.

          I believe the only reason Mamdani won (and I am happy he did) is because trump went off the rails immediately after getting voted in. It literally took democracy to basically collapse and people to literally die on the streets for some groups to wake up

          Had Mamdani ran a few years back, even during trump’s first gov and the ingrained racism in American society would have kept him way out

          Don’t get me wrong, at the end of the day I hope you are correct and I am wrong as you are presenting a reasonable path for improvement. I am just too jaded now to believe there is such a thing as common sense

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            2 hours ago

            It literally took democracy to basically collapse and people to literally die on the streets for some groups to wake up

            For you…

            It took demographicsyou identify with experiencing those things for you to notice groups waking up.

            But different demographics have been thru this for generations, and various groups have been waking up to it for just as long

            So congrats for joining us. Just try to remember you’re not the first, and you hopefully won’t be the last. Look around and realize that as you come up with “new” ideas, some people been in this so long they learned it from their grandfather before they learned how to ride a bike.

            That’s a good thing for you. You don’t have to start from scratch.

            Just open your eyes some more, stay woke, don’t get mad your not a leader and quit.